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I do not trust Desmet, never have. Its a gut feeling. I also do not trust Dr Malone. I have been in this health freedom fight since my son was brain injured by his shots in 2008. Since then I have developed a bullshit detector that has worked well for me so far in keeping my family safe. Remember we humans are dealing with the DoD and they are in control. Each injection vial is owned by them until injected into arms. The DoD is very good at controlling us, one person at a time, using technology that none of us can imagine. Shut off your TV’s, dump your phones, use technology as little as possible and keep your wits about you. This looks like a time waster. Instead, grow a garden, feed your neighbors, pull your kids from school and hug them. I respect and enjoy Mark’s fabulous articles but I am going to go with my gut on this one. God Bless us all.

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Looking forward to reading comments as I tend to side with Dr Peter Breggin but am open to hearing other opinions.

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Just a thought... Crowd/group psychology is as old as the hills, so are pundits making it easier to personalise (& ultimately discredit) the phenomenon by suggesting it's exclusively 'Desmet’s, or Malone's thesis'...?

There are good Wikipedia references to mass psychosis & even Healthline has a piece about it - so it's nothing really new on the radar. Even a commissioned UK report suggested that the botched pandemic response was largely due to 'groupthink'...

I doubt the US could have successfully engaged in the various middle-eastern military campaigns if it wasn't for the collective emotional stress generated by the appalling 9/11event... I think this is a glaring example of how public fear, disgust & paranoia can be cranked-up in order to push through controversial policies: Covid Id's, lockdown fines, experimental-jab mandates, lethal-aid to Ukraine etc. - take your pick...

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This is fascinating. I do think that Desmet touches on an important issue, but I think the book has an exploratory and unfinished character. I feel like it is a highschool essay, although too long for that, but it explores the issue but never really gets his hands around it. Then we had the polemic going on between Peter Breggin and him and that got a bit ridiculous, for I believe there were too many misunderstandings and erroneous assumptions. I have been blogging about that and I am not done with it yet from the looks of it. The bottom line is understanding this kind of collective insanity is key to outgrowing it, and historically we can only say that these types of episodes always end badly. Few Germans would have been happy with Hitler in May of 1945, even if they went along in 1937. Why does the world always keep doing the same thing?

For one thing, it appears clear to me that Breggin and Desmet seem to talk past one another, because Breggin is entirely focused on the manifest level of the story, where obviously the perpetrators should be held to account, while Desmet is focused more on the latent content of the story, in this case the process in the collective mind. It will be interesting to see if this gets resolved or not.

https://app.letterdrop.com/60dc6e5ca9dd7b0066740a6a/posts/6314dce998f51f006724563f

https://pharmageddon-and-phoenix.letterdrop.com/c/breggin--breggin-vs-desmet-revisited

https://pharmageddon-and-phoenix.letterdrop.com/c/allopathic-autodaf

https://pharmageddon-and-phoenix.letterdrop.com/c/fighting-windmills

https://pharmageddon-and-phoenix.letterdrop.com/c/the-bregginvsdesmet-nondebate

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I spent a year in Bulgaria from mid 2020 to mid 2021. There was no mass formation there. People complied with the rules. When one faction in the government prevailed, everyone more masks to the supermarket. When the other political faction got the mask mandate repealed, no or very few people wore masks in the supermarket. I watched this happen over and over. The policies changed from week to week, and people went along with it because--food. So if we study mass formation, we have to ask, why did this country or that country behave this or that way. My experience in Bulgaria is that most people complied because they wanted food. Most people weren't fooled.

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Too much talk these days...

We don't need to be schooled about the psychological flaws that brought us to this day by enrolling in an online course.

We need rope. Lots of rope...

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Mattias Desmet's book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, makes a strong case that tyrants could not possibly tyrannize a population, without their blind faith, complicity, and their resentment toward those of us who are skeptical. He argues, and I think very well, that mass formation is a manifestation of a hypnosis, and that people would not be so eager to act against their own interests otherwise.

I do part company with Desmet, most respectfully, where he says that major and minor tyrants are not conscious or even organized regarding the damage that they cause to society. It seems to me that it is impossible for all of them to bray in unison "build back better" (and similar) without such organization. It is impossible for the likes of Trudeau, Biden, Merkel, Jacinda Ardern, Gavin Newsom, et al to NOT understand how effectively they have imposed atrocities on their citizens.

However, that said, Desmet's thesis is enormously helpful. Mass formation shows how the 60% became hypnotized and how to wake them up:. Keep talking to them and reasoning with them, even while they are throwing tantrums and attempting to censor. The sheep can actually have an epiphany, or even a glimpse, of the truth at such moments, and can finally wake up.

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interesting, will consider...

have read Desmet's book and found it to be a solid introduction into the topic, this making all this controversy, harsh rejection, somewhat unexpected such that i wonder if driven mostly by misunderstanding mixed with, tiggered by, a desire/insecurity to avoid the reality within the concept that change must first start inside...

also, will note just finishing recently published new edition of the book, Political Ponerology by Andrzej M. Łobaczewski, edited expanded by Harrison Koehli, which for me backstops Desmet's book with more detailed much deeper psychological consideration of this mass formation effect...

that the editor Harrison Koehl, who writes a nearly 40-page editor's introduction overall recommends Desmet's book and has written an extensive multi part review of Desmet's book on his substack page, link below...

also, rather odd that both Catherine Austin Fitts and James Corbett have written praise for Political Ponerology while they like the Breggins have publicly given harsh negative reviews of Desmet's book...

which considering how Political Ponerology is a signifyingly more difficult to read book i wonder if Fitts/Corbett even read it, have the background to read/understand it, like this does not add up, then also CG Jung address this concept under the label of the mass man mindset which likely they are not familiar with either...

https://ponerology.substack.com/p/ponerologists-log-supplemental-rounding?r=y3486&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Hope you’ll feel better soon.

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Thank you and I hope you feel better

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Ask him about heart surgery performed with hypnosis as the only anesthesia. Ask him how many people his serial killer patient murdered during and after therapy with Desmet. Ask yourself why you would promote this charlatan.

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Suggested reading. For all, teachers like Desmet and students alike:

The Origins of Totalitarianism

Hannah Arent, 1951

A description and analysis of Nazism and Stalinism, the major totalitarian political movements of the 20th century

https://archive.org/details/TheOriginsOfTotalitarianism/mode/2up

This is a long book, 500+ pages. If you don't have time to read it all (which you should) then focusing on Chapters 9-12 is a good place to start. Too many parallels today to ignore or be coincidental. This book describes the template that has been followed by today's totalitarians.

While some read history so as not to repeat the worst atrocities found in the past, others read history so as not to get caught committing the worst atrocities found in the past. Believing they are necessary to achieve a greater good. The same beliefs as those who committed the atrocities.

"Sometimes you have to break eggs to make an omelet," they say:

New York Times Statement About 1932 Pulitzer Prize Awarded to Walter Duranty

https://www.nytco.com/company/prizes-awards/new-york-times-statement-about-1932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/

By "eggs" they mean our skulls.

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Freedom Travel Alliance should not entertain Desmet's book or theories, imo.

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Dr. Breggin has reached out to Mattias. Why does he refuse to have a conversation?

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