My God it's shocking to me so many people still just swallow the garbage narratives around the "vaccines" and Cooties 19 in general.
I find it equally shocking how many people of note fall in line with regard to regurgitating these narratives, even when they are blatantly contradicted by the reality seen with their own eyes and other talking points they have accepted or have made themselves.
Agree with them or not ( I usually don't ) even people I had assumed were at least capable of critical thought seem to have bought lock stock and barrel into the BS. Did Chomsky miss the nearly 9 pages of side effects? How are so many people still this unaware of the issues?
Surely the machine has turned bot accounts loose on social media in order to manufacture consent but real people with curious minds with the same access to data I have ( in some cases, much greater access to both data and key players ) are still yapping utter nonsense and falsehoods.
This is someone who spent his life passionately lecturing about civil liberties, free speech, government tyranny, fascism, totalitarianism, inverted totalitarianism, bodily autonomy, corruption, greedy corporate oligarchs, racism, the capture of regulatory agencies, and the Author of Manufacturing Consent.
And now, with his views on covid vaccines, he betrays _everything_ he supposedly stood for. Pure genius.
One of the silver linings of the past two years is how it exposed the intellectual and moral frauds. It's good to know who they are. I have receipts.
And, of course, instead of interviewing truly “dissident” and informed voices on the issue of COVID vaccines, Amy “Maddow” Goodman allows a senile, ill-informed man to make unfounded assertions without the bother of asking him for evidence.
Thank you so much for noticing this about Chomsky, I have been astounded at his blindness. As a "recovering" leftist and a v.mandated and fired teacher in New Zealand , I can't bear to watch Noam. He has lost all his critical thinking credibility in my view. But I have to admit his view on the "lesser of 2 evils" with Hilary was a warning sign. I call it misguided loyalty, he has chosen his team through self unidentified propanga washing and can't see the wood for the trees. I have never until now, at 55 years, seen the danger in supporting a left wing view with its absolute drive for state/ global control of mind and body. Thank goodness I can now see left wing right same bird!
I was required to read the Chomsky-Skinner debate on language when I was a student (ca. 1976 or thereabouts) and decided, based on that, that Chomsky was an asshole. Nothing since then has changed my opinion.
Of course it’s on ( Russiagate loving) DeMockery Now! Esshhhh… The most well known author of Manufacturing Consent just became a tool of the monster he warned against. Someone might be running him like an old broken down water mill till he give$ up the gho$t.
I'm a 70 year old revolutionary socialist and haven't been vaccinated since I was a teen ager. Because, in part of that, I am in excellent health, take no medicine and make no use of a physician. Why would I cater to or believe in capitalist monopoly, Big Parma medicine? Those fake leftists who do are hereby kicked out of the club. Permanently. In Canada here, I am proud of the truckers and all those who stand against the tyranny of the Trudeau Despotism. I will stand with all those who think similarly.
He is an Extremist Liberal who is terrified of COVID and is slipping into Alzheimers disease. Liberals hate Russia and think Russia is Evil and must be destroyed.
Mar 24, 2022·edited Mar 24, 2022Liked by Mark Crispin Miller
As a postgrad at Sussex Uni, UK, I saw him lecture in '71 or '72, I forget which. I'd graduated in Experimental Psych and transitioned to the new AI, and thought the world of his innovations in linguistics, very germane in those days.
I had no idea at that time of the numbers of key researchers that'd been recruited by the Secret People, but it always puzzled me that his later published work in the field always seemed to showed promise, but never really came to fruition. I might have been wrong, as I'd got out of science by then and gone into computing as a career.
I've only recently come to the conclusion that Chomsky was already bought and paid for by the usual suspects by the time I saw him. It would explain the bafflingly inconclusive nature of his later core work, and also the leveraging of him as a public scientist to steer important and divisive social debates in particular directions.
I'm open to correction on how important his later linguistic theories really did turn out to be, and would like to hear from anyone who is more knowledgeable in the area than I am.
I cottoned on to Chomsky when, after denying the "inside job" thesis of 9/11 and finding himself increasingly pressed on the issue, finally said that, even if that thesis were true, it wouldn't matter anyway (!?!?!?! .....)
I then discovered an interesting fact from years before - that Chomsky was involved in a discussion on the Kennedy assassination ... and then backed out. See here:
"In the time period following Kennedy’s murder, writer/researcher Ray Marcus tried to enlist several prominent academics to take up the cause of exposing the plot that killed President Kennedy. ... In 1969, he was in the Boston area on an extended business function. He therefore arranged a discussion with Chomsky. Chomsky had initially agreed to a one-hour meeting in his office. Ray brought only 3-4 pieces of evidence, including his work on CE 399, the Magic Bullet, and a series of stills from the Zapruder film. Which had not been shown nationally yet.
Soon after the discussion began, Chomsky told “his secretary to cancel the remaining appointments for the day. The scheduled one-hour meeting stretched to 3-4 hours. Chomsky showed great interest in the material. We mutually agreed to a follow-up session later in the week. ... A professional colleague of Chomsky’s, Professor Selwyn Bromberger, was also at the second meeting. He drove Ray home. As he dropped him off he said, “If they are strong enough to kill the president, and strong enough to cover it up, then they are too strong to confront directly ... if they feel sufficiently threatened, they may move to open totalitarian rule.” (ibid)
It is important to reflect on Bromberger’s words as Ray related what happened next. He returned to California and again asked Chomsky to take up the cause. In April of 1969, Chomsky wrote back saying he now had to delay his decision until after a trip to England in June. He said he would get in touch with Ray then. Needless to say, he never did. He ended up being a prominent critic of the Vietnam War and this ended up making his name in both leftist and intellectual circles. Reflecting on Bromberger’s words to Marcus, one could conclude that Bromberger and Chomsky decided that the protest against Vietnam, which was becoming both vocal and widespread, and almost mainstream at the time, afforded a path of less resistance than the JFK case did. After all, look at what had happened to Jim Garrison."
I reckon that was a turning point for Chomsky. You don't have to go so far as to propose an X Files scenario in which Chomsky is approached by a menacing figure in a car park who makes him an offer he can't refuse (though it's a possibility). Chomsky is an intelligent man and would have figured out "the deal" by himself.
I used to think Chomsky was the top intellectual of the 20th Century. He sounds like a complete idiot in this discussion. I hope he is just senile, because if not, he has destroyed his legacy. He has no idea what he is talking about. Yes, he is the guy who wrote the book Manufacturing Consent about assholes like him. Thanks for this link. You are wonderful Mark.
Hes been correct about “manufactured consent” but for all the wrong reasons. Imagine if there was a libertarian / catholic conservative tenured professor of chemistry or physics on The faculty of MIT who was as vocal and outspoken as is Chomsky has been in areas completely outside his wheelhouse? Can you imagine how he’d be treated by the rest of academia to the media? Chomsky is a linguist, so of course that makes him an expert on everything. Just like someone like Paul Krugman happens to have a Nobel prize for some very specific narrow thing that he did years ago and yet he seems to think that he can sound off on every possible political and economic topic under the sun even though he’s wrong about just about everything.
"Angry old man shakes fist at clouds".
From the man who wrote Manufacturing Consent to the man who is trying to Manufacture Consent...
He always thought his shit didn't stink. Now imagine being the person who has to change his diapers.
My God it's shocking to me so many people still just swallow the garbage narratives around the "vaccines" and Cooties 19 in general.
I find it equally shocking how many people of note fall in line with regard to regurgitating these narratives, even when they are blatantly contradicted by the reality seen with their own eyes and other talking points they have accepted or have made themselves.
Agree with them or not ( I usually don't ) even people I had assumed were at least capable of critical thought seem to have bought lock stock and barrel into the BS. Did Chomsky miss the nearly 9 pages of side effects? How are so many people still this unaware of the issues?
Surely the machine has turned bot accounts loose on social media in order to manufacture consent but real people with curious minds with the same access to data I have ( in some cases, much greater access to both data and key players ) are still yapping utter nonsense and falsehoods.
For f***'s sake.
This is someone who spent his life passionately lecturing about civil liberties, free speech, government tyranny, fascism, totalitarianism, inverted totalitarianism, bodily autonomy, corruption, greedy corporate oligarchs, racism, the capture of regulatory agencies, and the Author of Manufacturing Consent.
And now, with his views on covid vaccines, he betrays _everything_ he supposedly stood for. Pure genius.
One of the silver linings of the past two years is how it exposed the intellectual and moral frauds. It's good to know who they are. I have receipts.
And, of course, instead of interviewing truly “dissident” and informed voices on the issue of COVID vaccines, Amy “Maddow” Goodman allows a senile, ill-informed man to make unfounded assertions without the bother of asking him for evidence.
It's somewhat difficult to believe that it's the same guy who wrote Manufacturing Consent.
Thank you so much for noticing this about Chomsky, I have been astounded at his blindness. As a "recovering" leftist and a v.mandated and fired teacher in New Zealand , I can't bear to watch Noam. He has lost all his critical thinking credibility in my view. But I have to admit his view on the "lesser of 2 evils" with Hilary was a warning sign. I call it misguided loyalty, he has chosen his team through self unidentified propanga washing and can't see the wood for the trees. I have never until now, at 55 years, seen the danger in supporting a left wing view with its absolute drive for state/ global control of mind and body. Thank goodness I can now see left wing right same bird!
I was required to read the Chomsky-Skinner debate on language when I was a student (ca. 1976 or thereabouts) and decided, based on that, that Chomsky was an asshole. Nothing since then has changed my opinion.
Of course it’s on ( Russiagate loving) DeMockery Now! Esshhhh… The most well known author of Manufacturing Consent just became a tool of the monster he warned against. Someone might be running him like an old broken down water mill till he give$ up the gho$t.
I'm a 70 year old revolutionary socialist and haven't been vaccinated since I was a teen ager. Because, in part of that, I am in excellent health, take no medicine and make no use of a physician. Why would I cater to or believe in capitalist monopoly, Big Parma medicine? Those fake leftists who do are hereby kicked out of the club. Permanently. In Canada here, I am proud of the truckers and all those who stand against the tyranny of the Trudeau Despotism. I will stand with all those who think similarly.
He is an Extremist Liberal who is terrified of COVID and is slipping into Alzheimers disease. Liberals hate Russia and think Russia is Evil and must be destroyed.
As a postgrad at Sussex Uni, UK, I saw him lecture in '71 or '72, I forget which. I'd graduated in Experimental Psych and transitioned to the new AI, and thought the world of his innovations in linguistics, very germane in those days.
I had no idea at that time of the numbers of key researchers that'd been recruited by the Secret People, but it always puzzled me that his later published work in the field always seemed to showed promise, but never really came to fruition. I might have been wrong, as I'd got out of science by then and gone into computing as a career.
I've only recently come to the conclusion that Chomsky was already bought and paid for by the usual suspects by the time I saw him. It would explain the bafflingly inconclusive nature of his later core work, and also the leveraging of him as a public scientist to steer important and divisive social debates in particular directions.
I'm open to correction on how important his later linguistic theories really did turn out to be, and would like to hear from anyone who is more knowledgeable in the area than I am.
I cottoned on to Chomsky when, after denying the "inside job" thesis of 9/11 and finding himself increasingly pressed on the issue, finally said that, even if that thesis were true, it wouldn't matter anyway (!?!?!?! .....)
I then discovered an interesting fact from years before - that Chomsky was involved in a discussion on the Kennedy assassination ... and then backed out. See here:
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-deceptions-and-disguises-of-noam-chomsky
"In the time period following Kennedy’s murder, writer/researcher Ray Marcus tried to enlist several prominent academics to take up the cause of exposing the plot that killed President Kennedy. ... In 1969, he was in the Boston area on an extended business function. He therefore arranged a discussion with Chomsky. Chomsky had initially agreed to a one-hour meeting in his office. Ray brought only 3-4 pieces of evidence, including his work on CE 399, the Magic Bullet, and a series of stills from the Zapruder film. Which had not been shown nationally yet.
Soon after the discussion began, Chomsky told “his secretary to cancel the remaining appointments for the day. The scheduled one-hour meeting stretched to 3-4 hours. Chomsky showed great interest in the material. We mutually agreed to a follow-up session later in the week. ... A professional colleague of Chomsky’s, Professor Selwyn Bromberger, was also at the second meeting. He drove Ray home. As he dropped him off he said, “If they are strong enough to kill the president, and strong enough to cover it up, then they are too strong to confront directly ... if they feel sufficiently threatened, they may move to open totalitarian rule.” (ibid)
It is important to reflect on Bromberger’s words as Ray related what happened next. He returned to California and again asked Chomsky to take up the cause. In April of 1969, Chomsky wrote back saying he now had to delay his decision until after a trip to England in June. He said he would get in touch with Ray then. Needless to say, he never did. He ended up being a prominent critic of the Vietnam War and this ended up making his name in both leftist and intellectual circles. Reflecting on Bromberger’s words to Marcus, one could conclude that Bromberger and Chomsky decided that the protest against Vietnam, which was becoming both vocal and widespread, and almost mainstream at the time, afforded a path of less resistance than the JFK case did. After all, look at what had happened to Jim Garrison."
I reckon that was a turning point for Chomsky. You don't have to go so far as to propose an X Files scenario in which Chomsky is approached by a menacing figure in a car park who makes him an offer he can't refuse (though it's a possibility). Chomsky is an intelligent man and would have figured out "the deal" by himself.
I used to think Chomsky was the top intellectual of the 20th Century. He sounds like a complete idiot in this discussion. I hope he is just senile, because if not, he has destroyed his legacy. He has no idea what he is talking about. Yes, he is the guy who wrote the book Manufacturing Consent about assholes like him. Thanks for this link. You are wonderful Mark.
Hes been correct about “manufactured consent” but for all the wrong reasons. Imagine if there was a libertarian / catholic conservative tenured professor of chemistry or physics on The faculty of MIT who was as vocal and outspoken as is Chomsky has been in areas completely outside his wheelhouse? Can you imagine how he’d be treated by the rest of academia to the media? Chomsky is a linguist, so of course that makes him an expert on everything. Just like someone like Paul Krugman happens to have a Nobel prize for some very specific narrow thing that he did years ago and yet he seems to think that he can sound off on every possible political and economic topic under the sun even though he’s wrong about just about everything.
This sums up chomsky
https://mises.org/library/chomskys-economics
Remember when Chomsky came out in support of Democratic Kampuchea-----i.e. Pol Pot's Cambodia?
The man should have stuck with linguistics. I never have understood why so he has so many admirers for his political points of view.