We talked at first about my lawsuit, and then moved on to the precarious state of free speech today, the fanaticism of "the liberal media," Noam Chomsky, and much else
I agree, totally, lots of Truth Bombs in his act. I went with my new lefty friends to see him when he came to New England in June. Did you know his wife is a comedian too? I think her name is Stephanie, and she is 3rd generation Mexican. She did the warmup for Jimmy. That must be some crazy dinner conversation in their home.
They were so sweet. We got in line after the show to say hello to him, and didnt know we were supposed to have VIP tickets, whatever that is. After we waited 20 minutes, the teenaged Comedy Club employees, were ready to show me and my two elderly friends the door. Rules Are Rules. I got Stephanie's attention. She took one look at the hopeful faces of my two white haired peacenik friends, Jim equipped with his cane, and said, "Dont worry. Just wait over there." After all the "VIPs" had their moment with Jimmy, both came over to where we were sitting. Stephanie took photos for us, and Jimmy listened with interest to my concern about Gov Hochul pushing for a concentration... I mean quarantine.... camp in upstate NY. There is a complete news blackout on that story btw. See https://unitingnys.com/
I was a bit disappointed that he in is still pushing "Medicare for All". I was in that camp before Covid, even though I am an Ayurvedic doctor and want nothing to do with insurance of any kind. I was getting text msgs from our local health agency urging me to get my free Covid shots. The name of the sender group was Babylon something or other. Good Grief!
Corporatized "healthcare", in cahoots with the government is a weapon of mass destruction. We need LESS centralization not more.
Even before Covid, if we look into the work of Jon Rappaport, Celia Farber, and Dr. Jennifer Daniels (hear her decade of radio shows at www.vitalitycycles.com), we see the sinister hand of the oligarchy. What we have now is Rockerfeller medicine, totally controlled through licensing, medical school's curricula, big pharma and media promotion. Look up a pick of ole Grandaddy Johnboy Rockerfeller. He looks like the Grim Reaper incarnate. Speaking of the Grim Reaper, that is one of the translations from Italian of the name Fauci. You cant make this stuff up.
Jul 12, 2023·edited Jul 12, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller
In George Orwell's work, "The Prevention of Literature" he explained how academics both self-censor and become enforcers of censorship. Specifically as it pertains to psychology. Because psychology applied as a "science," is also known as Social and Behavioral Science. Behavioral Science is the science that studies the efficacy of propaganda informed by linguistics, symbols, choice architecture, fear appeals, appeals to authority, in changing perspectives, ideas the mind can be shaped to believe, fully informed by psychology, resulting in changes in behaviors of the targeted audience. "Nudge" pseudoscience. And teaching dangerous subjects that expose how authorities manipulate and coerce populations with applied psychology is dangerous to one's career and status. Even among peers. Especially among peers.
"When one sees highly educated men looking on indifferently at oppression and persecution, one wonders which to despise more, their cynicism or their shortsightedness. Many scientists, for example, are the uncritical admirers of the U.S.S.R. They appear to think that the destruction of liberty is of no importance so long as their own line of work is for the moment unaffected. The U.S.S.R. is a large, rapidly developing country which has an acute need of scientific workers and, consequently, treats them generously. Provided that they steer clear of dangerous subjects such as psychology, scientists are privileged persons."
Interesting that Orwell wrote that essay as the pseudoscience of Lysenkoism was taking hold in the Soviet Union. This from the same essay:
"A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial: that is, when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud. Such a society, no matter how long it persists, can never afford to become either tolerant or intellectually stable. It can never permit either the truthful recording of facts or the emotional sincerity that literary creation demands."
I had never read this piece by Orwell before. And his other lesser-known works. We all know 1984 and Animal Farm. Literary tools he used to communicate what he saw was already being developed in the West. By using futurism and anthropomorphism he was able to bypass the censors of his day to communicate the ideas in a way that didn't threaten the current regime.
A regime that was itself built on the same fascist authoritarian impulses that put Hitler into power before the war, even sustained Hitler during the war. It wasn't that they opposed German and Italian Fascism, it was that Hitler got too big for his britches.
Hitler and Stalin signed a famous non-aggression pact. With secret protocols. Both hated individualism, individual liberty and freedom, western liberal capitalism. That shared hatred was the impetus for the pact. Broken for other reasons of the ego's of the men when it no longer served their other interests.
George Orwell's "The Prevention of Literature" was him lamenting that he couldn't write about what was happening in real time in the west. He could only describe what was happening in the USSR and use literary techniques of futurism and anthropomorphism to tell the truth of his time, what he was facing, his literature was actually being prevented from being shared at that time.
And too many of us didn't get it until now. Which was what the authorities wanted to happen. We would've been in a better position to oppose them eighty years ago than we are today.
Another dot to connect is Mathias Desmet's work on Mass Formation or Mass Psychosis. He states the cause of the situation we see now, is the removal of the individual from nature and natural law, by the removal of massive numbers of people from human institutions like biologically related family, historical connections to land, land and businesses owned by biologically related families and small communities made up of such families. Such traumatized isolated people are ripe for massive insane indoctrination.
100% agreed. Excellent dot connecting comment. I'll throw in some more dots: another sinister development in the weaponization of psychology is "Behavioral Health". In the emergency rooms of most New England hospitals is a section named "Behavioral Health". Counseling and drug dispensing corporations like CHR in Connecticut, acknowledge this branch of "science" as legitimate.
Basically, if the police come to your door with a vaccinator, and you resist, put up a fuss, maybe get a bit peeved, you can be brought to the "Behavioral Health" experts to be tranquilized and incarcerated. All the cops need is a nod by a "social worker". A "doctor" can then sign a paper that a probate court (the most dangerous courts in the land) will uphold, business as usual protocol, to detain you for 15 days, possibly longer. No constitutional rights to be seen anywhere. Any outside the narrative conversation or opinions will be put in your "medical chart", to be used as proof of "behavioral health problems".
Governments have been doing this sporadically to political dissidents for a century, but now its widespread. See the story of Abraham Bolden, first Black Secret Service agent, handpicked for the White House detail by JFK, as an example. His book is Echo From Dealey Plaza and he is on FB.
I read "Boxed In" 35 years ago and never forgot it. Now I'm just catching up with Mark's fight with NYU--I just scrolled through the court documents. All I can say is NYU is certainly a frightening place. They don't deserve MCM.
A good interview revealing how the academic environment has morphed into even more of a snipers nest then it already was, as Department Heads have to tow the line as they're getting orders directly from security state controlled administrators.
It was a good conversation though I thought it rude the way he broke in and went on and on with that story. I hope you didn't mind. I wish he would have let you talk a lot more about your situation and lies you have discovered in propaganda. I've seen Dore do similar things with other guests. He talks too much himself sometimes.
Jimmy steps on ALL his interviewees; his interview with the great RFKjr was a travesty; he barely let Bobby talk. Jimmy is informed so I wish him luck, but he basically delivers monologues without listening to others. His opinions are on the money, but he needs to learn the very basics of how to conduct an interview. His interviews are almost unlistenable.
Del Bigtree on the highwire does a good job hosting- lets interviewees go on uninterrupted for minutes at a time, but will interject if needed or helpful, and also knows a lot himself. Same for RFKjr on The Defender. Jimmy Dore is correct that America is engaged in endless proxy wars, and that our (USA)current unity of business and government is essentially fascist; but listeners still want to hear guests like RFK or Max Blumenthal themselves, and not Jimmy continuously interrupting. Also Jimmy was not openly criticizing the mRNA shots openly, early, as RFKjr was, or Del Bigtree. RFK comes off less brash than Jimmy, but risked his entire career when he openly began questioning Fauci, Wuhan, Gain of Function, the safety of all mRNA shots as early as April 2020(Inside the Vatican interview April 2020). Bobby talked softly but was far braver. Listening to Jimmy step all over RFKjr ( even patronizing him)
Dore:
“And what do we call a combination of business and government, Bobby?” (fascism) was like watching a little leaguer spitting at Mickey Mantle.
Dore's style isn't for everybody, but you are not familiar enough with him if you think Dore was being patronizing to RFK with that question. His delivery is often like he's trying to wake up any liberals or left leaning people supporting Biden for reasons they don't even understand.
Early dissenters risked not just their careers but potentially their freedom and lives. Fauci and Pfizer controlled media worked hard to equate increasing vax hesitancy as the same as mass murder. Hotez still throws out this nonsense in 2023, claiming Rogan and RFK Jr caused hundreds of thousands of deaths for discouraging people to take the damn clotshot. Claiming criticism kills people is essentially begging the government to lock them up and encourages deranged covidians to attack them.
Agreed, good ole Brian Lamb. Those were the days, when I watched C-Span, Congress and Senate live in session, believing they were the seat of power in the country.
Now I see that as good as Lamb was, the range of opinions and guests allowed, was circumscribed.
Im not so sure about Greenwald, but Cindy Sheehan, (also on Substack) rocks! When she was camped outside of the Bush compound in Texas the Secret Service code name for her was The Tornado.
LOL!! It appears I may be getting higher on their list. I was followed by a silent square drone, yesterday, as I walked through my former high school in my home town on the way to the bus stop. Friggn creepy!!
A couple was walking behind me and they saw it too. It stopped midair about 150 feet above me and appeared to watch me as I shook my fist at it.
I have yet to contact the local PD to see what they have to say about it. My home town is on Long Island Sound. Maybe its supposed to be some kind of environmental monitoring, looking out for fish kills?
I duck into the bushes often as Im walking all over the state. Public toilets are few and far between, and I drink a lot of tea and water. Those clowns running that drone could be watching me drop my drawers just for fun.
I have been a fan of Ritter since his stance against the Iraq War. Recently an independent Russian journalist appearing on the Corbett report, named him as being on the payroll of the Kremlin. Food for Thought. You can find the interview here:
Jimmy Dore talks too much and says very little- I'd far prefer to hear from you Mark- I don't think you need to do interviews- I'd rather just hear from you with no interruptions- as usual- everything you had to say was spot on-= thanks for your observations about Chomsky- I share them!
Jimmy Dore is terrific. A refreshing and rare voice of reason and sanity from the left.
I agree, totally, lots of Truth Bombs in his act. I went with my new lefty friends to see him when he came to New England in June. Did you know his wife is a comedian too? I think her name is Stephanie, and she is 3rd generation Mexican. She did the warmup for Jimmy. That must be some crazy dinner conversation in their home.
They were so sweet. We got in line after the show to say hello to him, and didnt know we were supposed to have VIP tickets, whatever that is. After we waited 20 minutes, the teenaged Comedy Club employees, were ready to show me and my two elderly friends the door. Rules Are Rules. I got Stephanie's attention. She took one look at the hopeful faces of my two white haired peacenik friends, Jim equipped with his cane, and said, "Dont worry. Just wait over there." After all the "VIPs" had their moment with Jimmy, both came over to where we were sitting. Stephanie took photos for us, and Jimmy listened with interest to my concern about Gov Hochul pushing for a concentration... I mean quarantine.... camp in upstate NY. There is a complete news blackout on that story btw. See https://unitingnys.com/
I was a bit disappointed that he in is still pushing "Medicare for All". I was in that camp before Covid, even though I am an Ayurvedic doctor and want nothing to do with insurance of any kind. I was getting text msgs from our local health agency urging me to get my free Covid shots. The name of the sender group was Babylon something or other. Good Grief!
Corporatized "healthcare", in cahoots with the government is a weapon of mass destruction. We need LESS centralization not more.
Even before Covid, if we look into the work of Jon Rappaport, Celia Farber, and Dr. Jennifer Daniels (hear her decade of radio shows at www.vitalitycycles.com), we see the sinister hand of the oligarchy. What we have now is Rockerfeller medicine, totally controlled through licensing, medical school's curricula, big pharma and media promotion. Look up a pick of ole Grandaddy Johnboy Rockerfeller. He looks like the Grim Reaper incarnate. Speaking of the Grim Reaper, that is one of the translations from Italian of the name Fauci. You cant make this stuff up.
It was a brilliant and important converstation!
Indeed!
In George Orwell's work, "The Prevention of Literature" he explained how academics both self-censor and become enforcers of censorship. Specifically as it pertains to psychology. Because psychology applied as a "science," is also known as Social and Behavioral Science. Behavioral Science is the science that studies the efficacy of propaganda informed by linguistics, symbols, choice architecture, fear appeals, appeals to authority, in changing perspectives, ideas the mind can be shaped to believe, fully informed by psychology, resulting in changes in behaviors of the targeted audience. "Nudge" pseudoscience. And teaching dangerous subjects that expose how authorities manipulate and coerce populations with applied psychology is dangerous to one's career and status. Even among peers. Especially among peers.
"When one sees highly educated men looking on indifferently at oppression and persecution, one wonders which to despise more, their cynicism or their shortsightedness. Many scientists, for example, are the uncritical admirers of the U.S.S.R. They appear to think that the destruction of liberty is of no importance so long as their own line of work is for the moment unaffected. The U.S.S.R. is a large, rapidly developing country which has an acute need of scientific workers and, consequently, treats them generously. Provided that they steer clear of dangerous subjects such as psychology, scientists are privileged persons."
https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-prevention-of-literature/
Interesting that Orwell wrote that essay as the pseudoscience of Lysenkoism was taking hold in the Soviet Union. This from the same essay:
"A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial: that is, when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud. Such a society, no matter how long it persists, can never afford to become either tolerant or intellectually stable. It can never permit either the truthful recording of facts or the emotional sincerity that literary creation demands."
I had never read this piece by Orwell before. And his other lesser-known works. We all know 1984 and Animal Farm. Literary tools he used to communicate what he saw was already being developed in the West. By using futurism and anthropomorphism he was able to bypass the censors of his day to communicate the ideas in a way that didn't threaten the current regime.
A regime that was itself built on the same fascist authoritarian impulses that put Hitler into power before the war, even sustained Hitler during the war. It wasn't that they opposed German and Italian Fascism, it was that Hitler got too big for his britches.
Hitler and Stalin signed a famous non-aggression pact. With secret protocols. Both hated individualism, individual liberty and freedom, western liberal capitalism. That shared hatred was the impetus for the pact. Broken for other reasons of the ego's of the men when it no longer served their other interests.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234008336_The_Hitler-Stalin_pact_discussion_of_the_Non-Aggression_Treaty_and_the_secret_protocols
(free download .pdf)
American industrialists and elite academia love Fascism:
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of_the_europ.htm
Including the medical profession:
https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23040706/
The Bush's in the heart of it all, with Rockefeller, Morgan, Harriman, Brown. A US and UK joint effort:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
https://www.c-span.org/video/?160639-1/unholy-trinity-vatican-nazis-swiss-banks
https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2016/02/the-bush-crime-family-history-presco/
George Orwell's "The Prevention of Literature" was him lamenting that he couldn't write about what was happening in real time in the west. He could only describe what was happening in the USSR and use literary techniques of futurism and anthropomorphism to tell the truth of his time, what he was facing, his literature was actually being prevented from being shared at that time.
And too many of us didn't get it until now. Which was what the authorities wanted to happen. We would've been in a better position to oppose them eighty years ago than we are today.
Yep. Chock-full-a-goodies!
Another dot to connect is Mathias Desmet's work on Mass Formation or Mass Psychosis. He states the cause of the situation we see now, is the removal of the individual from nature and natural law, by the removal of massive numbers of people from human institutions like biologically related family, historical connections to land, land and businesses owned by biologically related families and small communities made up of such families. Such traumatized isolated people are ripe for massive insane indoctrination.
thank you for this post, both for the quotation, and the link
100% agreed. Excellent dot connecting comment. I'll throw in some more dots: another sinister development in the weaponization of psychology is "Behavioral Health". In the emergency rooms of most New England hospitals is a section named "Behavioral Health". Counseling and drug dispensing corporations like CHR in Connecticut, acknowledge this branch of "science" as legitimate.
Basically, if the police come to your door with a vaccinator, and you resist, put up a fuss, maybe get a bit peeved, you can be brought to the "Behavioral Health" experts to be tranquilized and incarcerated. All the cops need is a nod by a "social worker". A "doctor" can then sign a paper that a probate court (the most dangerous courts in the land) will uphold, business as usual protocol, to detain you for 15 days, possibly longer. No constitutional rights to be seen anywhere. Any outside the narrative conversation or opinions will be put in your "medical chart", to be used as proof of "behavioral health problems".
Governments have been doing this sporadically to political dissidents for a century, but now its widespread. See the story of Abraham Bolden, first Black Secret Service agent, handpicked for the White House detail by JFK, as an example. His book is Echo From Dealey Plaza and he is on FB.
I read "Boxed In" 35 years ago and never forgot it. Now I'm just catching up with Mark's fight with NYU--I just scrolled through the court documents. All I can say is NYU is certainly a frightening place. They don't deserve MCM.
Teaching for 25 years, I don't believe in grades. BUT an exception to every rule:
A++!
thank you again! Please consider finding a way to teach your propaganda class online, pull a 'Tucker' on them!
It should be a requirement for high school graduation 🎓
A good interview revealing how the academic environment has morphed into even more of a snipers nest then it already was, as Department Heads have to tow the line as they're getting orders directly from security state controlled administrators.
It was a good conversation though I thought it rude the way he broke in and went on and on with that story. I hope you didn't mind. I wish he would have let you talk a lot more about your situation and lies you have discovered in propaganda. I've seen Dore do similar things with other guests. He talks too much himself sometimes.
I like Jimmy but I agree with you.
I wanted to hear more from MCM and less from jimmy.
Jimmy steps on ALL his interviewees; his interview with the great RFKjr was a travesty; he barely let Bobby talk. Jimmy is informed so I wish him luck, but he basically delivers monologues without listening to others. His opinions are on the money, but he needs to learn the very basics of how to conduct an interview. His interviews are almost unlistenable.
I found this with a number of talk show hosts over the years. I had to stop listening.
And then came Brian Lamb on C-Span. He perfected the art of interviewing. Would ask a question and just let the guest talk. Heaven.
It takes a lot of discipline.
Del Bigtree on the highwire does a good job hosting- lets interviewees go on uninterrupted for minutes at a time, but will interject if needed or helpful, and also knows a lot himself. Same for RFKjr on The Defender. Jimmy Dore is correct that America is engaged in endless proxy wars, and that our (USA)current unity of business and government is essentially fascist; but listeners still want to hear guests like RFK or Max Blumenthal themselves, and not Jimmy continuously interrupting. Also Jimmy was not openly criticizing the mRNA shots openly, early, as RFKjr was, or Del Bigtree. RFK comes off less brash than Jimmy, but risked his entire career when he openly began questioning Fauci, Wuhan, Gain of Function, the safety of all mRNA shots as early as April 2020(Inside the Vatican interview April 2020). Bobby talked softly but was far braver. Listening to Jimmy step all over RFKjr ( even patronizing him)
Dore:
“And what do we call a combination of business and government, Bobby?” (fascism) was like watching a little leaguer spitting at Mickey Mantle.
Dore's style isn't for everybody, but you are not familiar enough with him if you think Dore was being patronizing to RFK with that question. His delivery is often like he's trying to wake up any liberals or left leaning people supporting Biden for reasons they don't even understand.
Early dissenters risked not just their careers but potentially their freedom and lives. Fauci and Pfizer controlled media worked hard to equate increasing vax hesitancy as the same as mass murder. Hotez still throws out this nonsense in 2023, claiming Rogan and RFK Jr caused hundreds of thousands of deaths for discouraging people to take the damn clotshot. Claiming criticism kills people is essentially begging the government to lock them up and encourages deranged covidians to attack them.
Would ask "a" question....
Agreed, good ole Brian Lamb. Those were the days, when I watched C-Span, Congress and Senate live in session, believing they were the seat of power in the country.
Now I see that as good as Lamb was, the range of opinions and guests allowed, was circumscribed.
Two of my favorite former democrats are you Mark and Jimmy Dore so I was very happy watching your interview on The Jimmy Dore show.
I agree. Glenn Greenwald is also on that list for me.
Im not so sure about Greenwald, but Cindy Sheehan, (also on Substack) rocks! When she was camped outside of the Bush compound in Texas the Secret Service code name for her was The Tornado.
Wish I could make enough of a difference in this world to earn that name from the secret service. Aspirations!!
LOL!! It appears I may be getting higher on their list. I was followed by a silent square drone, yesterday, as I walked through my former high school in my home town on the way to the bus stop. Friggn creepy!!
A couple was walking behind me and they saw it too. It stopped midair about 150 feet above me and appeared to watch me as I shook my fist at it.
I have yet to contact the local PD to see what they have to say about it. My home town is on Long Island Sound. Maybe its supposed to be some kind of environmental monitoring, looking out for fish kills?
I duck into the bushes often as Im walking all over the state. Public toilets are few and far between, and I drink a lot of tea and water. Those clowns running that drone could be watching me drop my drawers just for fun.
😱
Hey Mark, great to see those two interview segments. Great stuff! Glad you and Jimmy connected.
MCM, you should teach your propaganda class online. I will be the first one to sign up and give NYU my middle finger.
he did, hopefully he'll do it again
100%
Awesome! I love JD (and you too Mark) LOL
FYI -- A Scott Ritter Investigation: Agent Zelensky - Part 1 -- July 11, 2023
https://youtu.be/HLeBb6hPUC8
I have been a fan of Ritter since his stance against the Iraq War. Recently an independent Russian journalist appearing on the Corbett report, named him as being on the payroll of the Kremlin. Food for Thought. You can find the interview here:
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/
Jimmy Dore talks too much and says very little- I'd far prefer to hear from you Mark- I don't think you need to do interviews- I'd rather just hear from you with no interruptions- as usual- everything you had to say was spot on-= thanks for your observations about Chomsky- I share them!
Yes-would love to hear MCM on RFKjrs Defender podcast; or was that done already?
I did that one over 2 years ago.
Thanks, I will listen again.
Alex Jones and President Trump were the early warning shots across the bow.
Love them or hate them, we should have taken notice.
De-platform. De-bank. Indict. Lawsuits. Sue into oblivion. Bankruptcy.
If it can happen to them, we are nothing but chump change to the powers that be.
More accurately referred to as "the powers-that-shouldn't-be."
Thanks. I consider your interviews to be excellent way in for those still under the spell.