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What? No invite for Dr. Peter Hotez?

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I'm sure he'll be more than welcome.

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Thank you for bringing this HUGE issue out there for all of us to be part of.

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Sorry...every one of them believe we get sick from tiny, invisible "bugs." Phooey!

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Agree. They preach half a loaf.

Until each and every one of them can acknowledge that germ theory and it’s ugly fraud sister of virology are complete garbage, then having them declare vaxxes are worthless isn’t telling the complete story.

Which makes me think that the pharmafia have them in the palm of their criminal hands

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Actually, Bobby is open to your idée fixe. If you followed him you'd know that.

As for suggesting that he and those others are creatures of Big Pharma, I note that your position must be pleasing to the military. I mean, if there's no such thing as gain-of-function research, no one can be indicted for engaging in it. Does not this raise the possibility that _you're_ in someone else's "criminal hands"? Just saying....

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Jun 21, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller

Mark, I agree. Having been one of those who took a long time to question the viral theory, going back to HIV days., I have arrived at a bout 90% agreement with those who question "viral theory" at its root.

But are these people trying to eat the entire elephant in one bite? I think we would ALL be better off TARGETING SARS CoV-2 specifically than the entire "viral theory."

The CDC, NIH, WHO, NHS or any other agency can NOT provide a pure sample or working pathological proof that it causes the ACE1 and ACE2 receptors to malfunction and cause COVID. They don't even provide a pure sample to work with.

I think if we focus on SARS CoV-2 specifically we could keep the momentum going and win this battle. Just saying...

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That's not how this works... in the Internet age you cannot open one faucet and close another at will because it suits your personal agenda in one way or another. The whole elephant destroys viral theory in one fell swoop at the core, at the root, and leaves contagion fairytales languishing at the roadside begging for pennies where they belong.

It's time for humanity to take a bold leap forward and not waste any more time on this ridiculous gatekeeping maintaining some kind of middle ground that doesn't exist, that only exists in the minds of those who wish to keep the virus model and subsequent need for better vaccines going.

That is just another criminal position IMHO.

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I would like to totally agree. But having been through 30 years of this debate over viral theory, and seeing the discussion and awareness about the "virus model" progress by at least 500%, I know it is progressing. In the meantime, Fauci, Gates and these madmen increase their criminal empire by 100,000%, I can tell you we are vastly LOSING the battle. Why? The public doesn't understand bad science. But they DO understand bad people.

Obviously,this was NEVER about science. The general public is more concerned with forced jabs, lockdowns and misplaced fear of authority kicking down the door.

You can get out your black board and teach biology, but it doesn't have any real effect on the dire circumstances. The public needs law enforcement. Teaching someone to swim when they are being swept away in a current and drowning is not going to work in time.

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Jun 21, 2023·edited Jun 21, 2023

And I would like to believe that the truth will out in time, but we have historical precedence for truth getting buried time and time again so much so that the lie becomes our reality. I would really prefer that not happen again with the lie that injecting people prevents disease. I understand the strategy of working with what the general public puts their focus on, but, in the end, it's just more lies to break down the old wall of lies. It can backfire if you're not 100% honest with people from the get go.

The bad people argument falls apart if a new round of "good" people are brought in to sell yet more injectable solutions for a myriad of health problems.

Pediatricians are happily injecting newborns and children with all the new FDA approved ingredients.

The general public trusts their pediatricians more than they do us.

They won't stop injecting until they understand that they don't need the injections. Getting them to not trust their doctors seems like a far greater hill to climb.

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That argument is getting really old and tired and worn around the edges... oh we can't prosecute for something that doesn't exist so we have to enforce that the thing exists... jeez if you can't see the faulty logic and total lack of morality in that stance then no one can help you.

Criminal charges can and probably will be applied for medical fraud and racketeering. The provable damage caused by the injections is enough to put many people behind bars. There are no get out clauses there.

Again, gain of function and all the other scammy processes that happen behind closed doors in biolabs don't actually have to be successful or real for charges to be pressed if the activity is deemed to be illegal in itself.

By far, the deepest reaching solution to this long standing fraud is to educate the general public on the true history of virology and vaccines and then let them decide whether they need any of these products or not.

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There is a lot more to it and it's more complicated than one theory or the other Music Man. People are coming around slowly. Bechamp vs Pasteur - methinks it is a bit of both plus more that we don't yet understand. And for sure they will be talking about more than just that in this roundtable. Whatever you call it, people are being harmed.

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Jun 21, 2023·edited Jun 21, 2023

If you don't have any people from the no virus camp at the round table then it's not representative of the larger debate that is opening up and IMO unstoppable at this point.

People were harmed by the medical protocols that were followed and by the injections that these guys still promote as being a valid way to prevent diseases.

Virology is fraud from top to bottom. Contagion is a myth.

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These types peddle all the other usual cures and treatments for convid. Everyone's making money here.

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Thank you.

A miss is as good as a mile.

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I want to believe in RFK Jr. However, I cannot help but be suspicious because of his stance on climate. I believe climate change will be the next "pandemic" used to take away our freedoms. (Covid has already done its toll by ensuring the majority have been jabbed.) What freedoms will we lose in order to "save the planet"? Also, I'm suspicious of his views on gun control. He has said that we must "get guns out of the hands of criminals." Which criminals does he mean? Will having a big carbon footprint cause one to be labelled a criminal? We need someone one the right side of all the right issues. I'm not sure he's the one.

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It seems as though Bobby is open to taking with others about so-called climate change. Here he speaks to Dane Wigington:

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/us-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/

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Thank you so much. I will definitely give it a listen.

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Dane the "Chemtrail" guy? Oh dear...

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Yes. I used to think that was crazy stuff. Not so much now. Watch “The Dimming”. It’s quite compelling.

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No. I'm not a chemtrail fanatic. I watched all that stuff 20 years ago. And read plenty of debunking on the subject that was far more compelling than the chemtrail argument.

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The Vaccinated Have Been PUNKED

For Believing

The Unbelievable.

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No doc/scientist in world can produce sample of CV19 or any other virus. Those who question the legitimacy of virus are black-balled & in some cases, murdered - It's no coincidence that inventor of PCR test, Kary Mullis, "died suddenly" 2 months before CV19 made it's big debut.

Do people really believe flu cases in U.S. went from 38 million in 2019 to 1,822 in 2020? That stat alone should have been massive red flag to EVERY healthcare professional - including RFK Jr. & his roundtable cohorts.

RFK Jr. is controlled opposition who lures people in w/vaccine fight. He was huge Hillary supporter in 2016, despite the endless irrefutable evidence of the crimes/atrocities she committed. NO excuse for RFK's support of Hillary - it tells you everything you need to know about him. She's a horrific human being.

RFK also pushes climate change farce, despite the endless lies Al Gore peddled that made him millions. The whole reducing CO2 BS is a lie that's been proven by thousands of scientists. The biggest danger to our society are the global communists & their puppets who've infiltrated every aspect of our government & MSM.

How do you know who to trust regarding fictitious virus/climate change agenda? SIMPLE, follow the MONEY! Those who push these agendas have massive stake in game. Those who oppose them have zero stake in game & risk losing everything.

The phony virus & fraudulent test were used as tools to create illusion of pandemic to justify roll-out of genocide jab.

If covid doesn't exist then what did people die from?

1. CDC created special ICD code allowing ANY illness/death to be reported as Covid-19.

2. Remdesivir & ventilators were mandated by Fauci to be used as Covid treatment in hospitals/nursing homes. Remdesivir was taken off market in 2019 for killing 53% of participants in an Ebola treatment study. Remdesivir can cause kidney failure & fluid build-up in lungs. Ventilators significantly increase risk of pneumonia, lower oxygen in blood. Deaths by Remdesivir & vents were reported as Covid deaths.

3. Countless vaccine related deaths have also been reported as Covid deaths.

Trump's “support” of vaccine was countermove to prevent Biden Regime/globalists from

locking down country for several years until vaccine was developed), which would have

destroyed U.S. to point of no return & caused hundreds of millions of more deaths around world, in addition to deaths occurring today.

Trump’s quick release of harmless “vaccine” was also countermove to catch enemy off guard & force them to make moves they were not prepared to make, which lead to further evidence of their crimes, which was needed in order for Military to make these degenerates accountable via military tribunals & executions.

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Hmm. A sudden "movement" springs up ("sudden," because the ontology of viruses has been in question for decades), weaponized to split the health freedom movement, cast doubt on RFK, Jr.'s motives, and exculpate the military researchers who've been hatching killed pathogens since the Korean War.

RFK, Jr. is not controlled opposition, but I suspect YOU are, whether you know it or not.

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Yikes. Not everyone who questions legitimacy of viruses is part of weaponized plan to divide. Many, like Dr. Andrew Kaufman are simply speaking out against virus scam because they care about truth & humanity. Often times when someone wants to suppress the truth they refer to anyone who opposes their views as being divisive -similar to the way many truths are labeled conspiracy. Both are tactics used to discredit truth.

Birds of a feather Mark. RFK Jr. endorsed Hillary in 2016.

"Hillary Clinton has the strength and experience to bring the war in Iraq to an end and reverse the potentially devastating effects of global warming," Kennedy said in a statement released by Clinton's campaign. "I watched proudly as Hillary won over New Yorkers across the state in her race for the Senate seat my father once held. Since then, she's been re-elected in a landslide victory and proven that she is ready to lead this nation from her first day in office. Hillary will inspire the real change America needs."

"Hillary will inspire the real change America needs".

RFK Jr. actually spoke these words about one of the most corrupt and despicable human beings on the earth. Zero excuse/explanation for this.

There's NO way that RFK Jr. doesn't know that Hillary is a degenerate criminal, therefore his support for her is very telling, as well as his climate change activism. Climate Change is just another scam to create fear, control people & put billions into the pockets of filthy politicians/globalists. Has RFK ever addressed Al Gore's endless lies regarding Global Warming? Gore's lies are what prompted Global Warming pushers to change "crisis" to "Climate Change".

RFK Jr. stated that climate change deniers should be jailed. He said this without hesitation in 2014.

Those are the words of a communist Mark.

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Harmless "vaccine"?

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Despite lies reported by MSM, Trump's "Warp Speed" vaccine was a placebo. Trump is at war with globalists & their puppets. Their plan was to shutdown America & countries around world for several years, until vaccine was developed, which would have destroyed our country & every other country to the point of no return. Trump called the enemies bluff - It's psychological warfare. There's a method to Trump's madness. His "stance" on vaccine was necessary to save the sovereignty of our nation.

2023 will be the year that Trump/Military gives the power back to We The People, like he promised at his inauguration on 1/20/2017. Hold tight.

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I'm sorry, but that sounds like the stuff Q-Anon was saying in 2020-2021. Trump is going to be in prison, unless perhaps he bargains in exchange for promising he'll drop out of the race. I will always believe he won the election in 2020, but the left cheated then and they will do whatever it takes to defeat Trump.

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Prior to entering Office, Trump knew government had been infiltrated by globalist puppets. He also knew Biden/globalists planned to use Covid to steal election, destroy economies & justify rollout of vaccine - all part of globalists plan to usher in NWO/one world communist government agenda.

That being said, upon entering Office, Trump put SAFEGUARDS in place via Executive Orders/National Emergencies & PEADS to protect America from communist takeover, which means Jan 6, 2021 Electoral College vote count was suspended/deemed null/void before it even began. It was allowed to play out to let traitors hang themselves & provide Trump/Military evidence necessary to prosecute enemies for treason.

Biden’s illegitimate inauguration was also allowed to play out in public eye for further evidence of treason.

Trump received report from DNI following 2020 election confirming that election interference did in fact occur, therefore Trump was obligated to do whatever he could to protect the sovereignty of our nation. Since our DOJ had become enemy of the People, the Military was the only way.

Since 1/20/21, U.S. has been under military occupancy. Biden was allowed to play President so Trump/Military could takedown enemies with minimal interference of everyday life & w/out the appearance of hostile military takeover.

Trump's indictment & Durham testimony is part of military operation to wake people up. To let people see w/own eyes the true intentions of Biden Regime/Globalists & what our country would have become had Trump/Military not intervened. If Americans were not given chance to see things play out they would continue to view truth as conspiracy, like they've been programmed to do by our government/MSM/Google search result.

I believe military operation is in final stages & that between now & end of Summer 2023 Trump will return publicly as rightful winner of 2020 election. Hold tight.

Q is simply military intelligence - A way to bypass MSM - Of course it's been made out to be a conspiracy theory/joke to discredit it's purpose.

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Keep on dreaming. It makes no sense to allow Biden to do all he (or his handlers) have done to destroy this country.

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I notice no one in this crowd is participating in The End of Covid.

Asking for a friend:

Has Dr. Tenpenny decided to push viruses with fear porn like lab leak and gain of function?

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I don't know. Why don't you ask her?

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When did I do that?

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Unless it was a different professor of propaganda?

https://planetwaves.fm/politics-of-virus-no-virus-betty-dodson/

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I've never asked Eric, or anyone else, to lie about anything.

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He's asked that you produce whatever statement you're referring to.

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Absolutely Mark. Keep up the terrific work.

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RFK Jr. Major address on peace and diplomacy starts at 8 pm est.

https://rumble.com/v2vdwcv-major-address-peace-and-diplomacy.html

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This is a limited hangout AT BEST. Where is Zach Bush? Ana Michalcea or David Nixon? Tenpenny pulls no.punches but the rest of this crew are NOT gonna address the real elephant in the room: the International Treaty coming live in Novemer which gives the WHO unilateral global authority over every humans medical.choices and freedom. In addition to all the ways beyond contaminated shots they are trying to kill us with dioxin and aluminum and strontium and bromium and flouride and mRNA and other injectibles in our livestock and GMO food now with an unremovable.coating (Apeel) and crashing the economy so health will be limited to those with the cash dollars to spend on practitioners outside the AMA and supplements and microgreens and mushrooms and EDTA chelation and all the ways we have to spend every available dime and hour on detoxing from the endless poisoning. Let's not kumbaya this too. Its insulting.

I feel a "it's all about VAX injuries" time waster going LIVE.

Anyone wanna weigh in on the radioactive fallout now travelling g the jet stream from the last three major blasts over in Eastern Europe/ Ukraine? Cuz that shit has made its way to the Rocky Mountains already...

But keep the conversation on injections so as not to upset Grandma or the kids.

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It's about health policy. Unless you're clairvoyant, you're just talking trash. RFK, Jr. doesn't want to talk about the toxic additives in our food and water? Whatever planet you're living on (a planet where "vax injuries" aren't real, apparently), just stay there and ignore the roundtable.

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Read Germ Theory it’s very informative!!

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I hope Kennedy is asked whether he intends to commit to establishing taxpayer funded free national health care and nationalizing Big Pharma.

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I was hopeful about RFK Jr until he deleted his tweet about Roger Waters. Americans' GAF meter tops out at none given with regards to Israel, yet there he is bending the knee without so much as a push back.

There's a popular opinion that one needs to bow to Israel to get elected, but that's just more propaganda. If it doesn't even make the top ten in issues Americans care about, how could it?

It is important to me because it is just a really s***** thing to do to a fellow truth teller like Roger Waters.

Effusive in his praise of Waters is not strong enough for what he said in his tweet. He called him a "global hero" and said "please keep speaking truth to power." in response to Waters' being smeared as an anti-Semite.

Then he deleted it, offering a lame nebulous excuse about Waters' "other views" ... He not just gave the smear artists credence in their absolutely absurd claim that the guy who wrote The Wall, whose theme is overwhelmingly anti-fascist anti-corporatist, anti-war, and is invitation to be empathetic and reach out to other people, is somehow a fascist alt-right Jew hater, but he also implicitly endorsed the smear.

For a man who has been painted with smears for most of his professional life, and who appears to be incredibly honest, why was he so dishonest in this instance?

I don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but I also want to call it intellectual dishonesty no matter who says it.

I guess what really sticks in my crawl is that I know his original tweet to Waters IS how he really feels, and yet he deleted it anyway.

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All things considered it and requires a spectacular kind of self-delusion to think (read believe) that RFK Jr. is going to lead us to the promised land.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/there-one-major-problem-robert-f-kennedy-jr/5823030

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I will reluctantly have to miss this because I have an important meeting to attend at that time. A citizens' group is forming in order to address issues in our school system. Our local newspaper editor has already written a mocking editorial about us. He is a gungho vaccine pusher who insulted the unvaccinated every week, leading me to cancel my subscription to avoid having his drivel in my mailbox. He ended up suffering a pulmonary embolism, which nearly killed him and kept him out of commission for many weeks. I'm sure it never occurred to him that the shots might have caused it. I hope the roundtable discussion will be available to watch later.

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Great lineup? Walensky birx mr I am science? Hoping they are taking notes.

Well there’s much to be done.

Start here to disseminate a better approach to health!

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