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When I was 6, I believed the nightly news (1970). I stopped believing 30 years later, after much evidence. Now that I am almost 60, I have stopped believing in anything but individual sovereignty and focus on how not to die by the hand of my so-called leaders.

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And jacquelyn, how long did it take us (I'm your age) to wake up to this fact? A long time...and some of our age group will never ever realize how they have been played...drip fed every damn night. It is insidious.

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thanks Duchess...yes, indeed...the idea of (attempted) genocide became known to me [as I am a bit native, Algonquin]. sometime in college. My Dad never mentioned he was native, he identified as simply French Canadian. I can only guess that he was taught not to mention it, like my grandmother and grandfather were, to keep them safe, hidden. So when this genocide came along, I think a few cells somewhere in my body shouted out 'avoid this jab' because they were trying to keep me safe, still. The other half of me is Romanian and I am so glad to see the Romanians in the EU standing up to the WEF and the WHO and the UN. Cells don't forget. best from OR

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You instantly reminded me of one of my favorite stories of the Fall of Communism: How after the guilty verdict Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu didn't understand they were going to be shot until they were led into the prison yard, the firing squad had to chase them around for 45 minutes before they were finally dispatched.

Occasionally... very occasionally... the bastards get some of what they richly deserve, on This Side.. 🤔

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Ah yes, I imagine Fauxi, Walensky, Birks, running about....brings to mind decapitated chickens, going for one last run.

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Were it up to me, they'd be adorned in purple robes with crowns of thorns, bound to their crosspiece after 39 lashes, on their way to a contemporary interpretation of Golgotha...

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If I was younger, I'd move to Romania, Croatia, Hungary..where there is still some semblance of independence in the populations...rather than our dependent on govt to fix our problems mindset here in the west.

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It's a lovely thought Duchess. But the truth is, there's nowhere to fly to. Unless you have a magick wardrobe handy, to step into Narnia...

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I know Captain. But if I was younger, I might take a chance. This country is in a mell of a hess. We haven't even seen the worst of it....our economy will crash and it will be an even bigger nightmare than the great depression. People who are starving also don't think with the front part of their brain

Do you know, i heard a "jabbed" friend of mine denouncing Djokovic at Wimbledown, because "he lied" about being vaccinated. No he didn't. Yeah, he lied about traveling in the past 14 days prior to arriving in Australia, he lied above playing tennis when he tested postivie for Covid. before that, after he'd already had the real thing.

There is a lot of anger out there...and its surprising it is against those who refused to play the Fear game or refused to get jabbed.

Can you imagine this fear (because that is what it is now among the jabbed..they know even if subconsciously they are in trouble), but their unease will be turned outwards...and I doubt it will be directed at the appropriate villains......I think it might get directed towards those who don't seem to have taken the jab " to protect others".

I hope to God I am wrong.

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Bless your ancestors. Have you ever read "Braiding Sweetgrass"? where native legends and lore were combined with science by a lovely native American woman, who proved scientifically, despite all her teachers telling her to forget about it, that all her people's knowledge had a scientific basis?

Unforgettable.

I think she was part Algonquin also.

Yes, trees talk to each other.

And her people's story of creation and the garden is so much more hopeful than our Biblical one...

One of those books that you never forget.

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Indeed, thanks Duchess. I just gave the ancestors a little glass of Sunday morning beer. I did read that book, was gifted it. And the other premise Kimmerer proved, which is that picking a plant, if done right, can serve to increase the amount of that plant, make it thrive. Ignoring it, not using it, can mean losing it, if not cared for and a bit protected with intention. Her thesis being rejected at first because the professor could not believe that picking a plant would in any way increase it. Limited mind, his.

Another good book I have read recently is called Stringing Rosaries by Denise Lajimodiere. It is essentially a compilation of interviews of American Indian boarding schools 'students', schools run by pretty much all the flavors of Christianity, Lutherans, Catholics, Presbyterians, Untiarians etc. Many of the stories kept silent by the shame of it. I was prompted to read the book when someone here on Substack suggested I pray the Rosary, assuming I was Christian too. That substacker didn't see why I took umbrage at her suggestion and told me to leave. When that set me off, I found this book. Glad to send you my copy if you are interested, pm me at my name, all one word, at pm dot me.

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How very kind. Let me see if I can find it on Amazon, I don't want to borrow your copy in case something happens to it...but fear not, I am a librarian, and I have ways :-).

As awful and horrible as what was done to the indigenous people of this land, no one ever talks about reparations for them. Truly, I think now is the time we all need to learn about the different approaches they took to living with and among nature, and each other...if it is not too late, because I know much has been lost. I think we would have a lot to learn for the benefit of all. Like every culture, Western European culture has a lot of good about it, but also a very very dark side...when we left behind nature or the Creator and thought ourselves the pinnacle of evolution so to speak. The materialism and the devolution of thought has brought us to a dangerous and anti life cliff.

I do not know what you feel about it, but my feeling is that if we all learned as much as is left about the beliefs and knowledge of the original inhabitants of this land, teach it, and most of all, try and put it into practice given the times we live in now, it might just stop the insanity that Western European thinking has got us into...because we are heading into death and darkness beyond imagining.

Sometimes I feel that maybe the best reparation, if we live through this, is to take the knowledge and traditions of the indigenous peoples of this land, and put it into practice in how we think about modern stuff...law, corporations, medicine, ecology, community, etc. and change our seemingly implacable institutions accordingly. From top to bottom, and from bottom to top.

Maybe the native American that we tried so hard to make like us, will end up saving us all. ...because the more I learn of their thoughts and way or living in the world with each other and in communities and with nature.... I'm expressing it badly, but all of the movements of people towards back to nature, ecology, community, the long emergency, the preppers, those who go back to the land...seem to me to be a very pale echo of what was before we devolved into this craziness of the past 60 years or so... .if we could acknowledge and honor and teach the wisdom of those who lived here first. I think we have a lot to learn ...and a lot to restore....including honor. If we can...and if we have not waited too long...We might have a chance.

I am hoping the fourth turning will turn us towards light, and not the darkness I see coming.

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Found it. Ordered. Amazon.

Thank you so much for your generous offer...and thank you for the book suggestion.

Kind regards.

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I assume she was a lovely American Indian or a lovely woman of indigenous descent. I am a native (North) American.

Words matter.

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For me, it took some well-meaning friends and a few books, a MS degree in Holistic Nutrition (since healthy food and a life with less diseases, that mostly can be solved with healthy food) was what I was after to explain to me the ins and out of the US gov't and politics. Once I saw what the fraudster did to AIDS patients with his junk shot., I knew never to listen to anything he said. Also it helped hearing George Carlin say to never listen to the gov't. especially when it comes to nutrition and health. So I will end with, become a George or Georgia Carlin if you aren't already!

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Thanks Skupe, we might learn slow but remember fast, hopefully. I remember seeing the AIDS quilt in the 1990s...and one fella in particular, in a wheelchair, who was wasteing away...if I had only known then, how much that effing Fman was to blame. I am suprised he can still be displayed in public, lets check in this fall re that. Re Carlin the name means warrior....and boy he sure was one....best

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this is what kills me. I lost many friends to azt. I'd say I just don't understand how people can listen to fauci let alone put stock in his words, but learned recently that there's thimerosol -- ethylmercury -- in flu shots. apparently more than 50% of the populace gets annual flu shots (and the govt is aiming for a minimum of 70%). this explains SO much. more than half of 'the adults in the room' are brain-damaged...

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Had one of those flu shots way back in the mic 1970's. Haven't had any vax since then and never will again. I too knew people murdered by AZT and the same demon that murdered them is still murdering people today. He's just richer now and better positioned to buy his way out of responsibility. Unfortunately, that is what this once great country now embraces. $$$$$

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Can't deny this Tag. Glad you saw early.

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Nobody did it better than Carlin but JP Sears is running a close second.

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Got 20 years on you and I too quit buying the lies in the 70's. BS is Bs no matter how they try to spin it.

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Ðead men tell no tales. Gavin is merely following orders from.his superiors.

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Exactly...and it is so pathetic. How did he ever become governor in the first place?

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He's Nancy Pelosi's nephew.

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Jul 16, 2023·edited Jul 16, 2023

Graphic of the Pelosi, Brown, Newsom, Getty political cartel, all funded by an oil billionaire.

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/

Getty family (who caused climate change) funding of the Just Stop Oil ENGO protesting Climate Change:

https://www.jpost.com/environment-and-climate-change/article-719750

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🫣🙄climate Change was happening long before Getty Family

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Yeah. like since the beginning of time? My area of the US was once a part of the great lakes. can still find fossil rocks with shells in them. The climate sure changed at some point cause now a very fertile farm land. Climate Change Freaks should really do some basic study on weather history and then? shut their pie holes.

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I could care less about climate change. My point is why are these Big Oil wealthy families funding climate change alarmist groups like Just Stop Oil? They sure as hell ain't on a guilt trip. Something nefarious going on there, no doubt about it.

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Obviously I'm just being hyperbolic to show the incongruity in that.

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I call him 'the Nepotism Kid'.

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I call him son of Satan. What's that make namy poo?

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Really, I didn't know that thanks. That is what "governance" has come to, I guess. We really do need a revolution.

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He is not. His aunt was married to Pelosi's brother, and they divorced in the 70s.

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Election fraud

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Can you say STOLEN ELECTIONS?

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Can you say STOLEN ELECTIONS??

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There's a recent article about who his father was: a powerful man who worked in finance or law for another powerful man who was a former Nazi. Sorry I don't have the details, from some article in the past couple weeks in the American Thinker or a similar publication/email.

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Rigged voting machines.

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That is one f-ed up man! Like most politicians.

If RFK Jr were to debate everyone that should be put in front of him, he wouldn’t have time to be president. He could be a human wrecking ball if let loose. And oooh would ‘t that be grand!!

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and that fucked up man will probably be in the oval office after the next 'election.' dominion loves him.

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Can i assume you are talking about the dementia child sniffing puppet?

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no, I'm talking about newsom. it's obvious he's being moved into place. they'll want the sympathy vote (as a cover story), too. so I'm thinking either biden will have an 'unfortunate accident' or a 'medical event,' or the ss will swap hunter's coke with fentanyl, and joe will have to step down to handle his grief. dominion will take care of the rest, and newsom will be able to do for the nation what he did for sf and ca. wwwwwwwake me when it's over...

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RFK jr was in the flight logs...

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Link please and thanks. He's not on the list that I have.

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I need a link for this. I did not see his name on list.

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JFK, Malcolm-X, MLK, RFK, Dag Hammarskjold, Patrice Lumumba, Aldo Moro, Olof Palme - just a small sample list of assassinated leaders who fell afoul of Western power interests. When you add in things like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Phoenix Program, all various CIA clandestine operations from mind control - to media manipulation, the endless training and support for torture and death squads in Latin America, as well as countless "regime-change" operations, invasions and coups - it is impossible not to see the complete moral and ethical corruption of Western elites. A half-a-million dead Iraqi children can further attest to this. How can so much documentation be readily available regarding this sordid history - and yet so few Americans have even passing knowledge?

The words Charles de Gaulle spoke to an aide after his return from JFK's funeral seem to best express why none of this well documented vile history seems to effectively penetrate the American psyche enough to register. De Gaulle knew the same forces within the U.S. military and CIA that had helped also target him for assassination, had in fact killed John Kennedy, not the self-proclaimed "patsy" Oswald. Yet de Gaulle did not believe we the American people had the stomach for the truth. Of the American people he told his aide: ("They don't want to know. They don't want to find out. They won't let themselves find out.") Truer words were never spoken about we Americans.

Most of us older folks are by now so numbed and jaded we expect to simply push a button on our remote and have "reality" conveniently delivered to us in the form of consumable "sound bites" and "preformed opinions" - which we can then later regurgitate on command - all as we sit eating junk food on our couch. Or, we watch almost in horror as our younger generations can't seem to figure out the answer to the seemingly rather straightforward question of - "what is a woman" - or can't seem to decide "which" of an ever expanding catalogue of "genders" they might "identify as" on any particular day of the week. Social Justice Theory as a sort of - "junk food" - for the intellect and the soul of a completely lost generation of youth.

The boys at Langley are no doubt not losing any sleep worrying over the prospect of an effective challenge to elite power and control - emanating from, or percolating in, the twisted recesses of our ever more mentally dysfunctional collective American psyche. And of course the political class & MSM default position is unwavering and crystal clear - whenever too much light seems to be shining on any particular day, on any particular of our myriad of self-created problems - simply - "blame Putin" - : /

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There assassinations go all the way back to the attempt on President Andrew Jackson 1835. They did succeed with Lincoln, Garfield & Mckinley. The Bankster Club. That's what happens when you give the power to create & control our money supply to private individuals.

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Good summary.

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Newsome. That pile of filth.

I am fourth generation Californian, and I can tell you, but for a continual defrauding of the electorate, not one of these scum (including the murderer and infamous liar/vaccine shill Senator Pan) would have ever served in any capacity. But it ain't who votes, but he who counts the vote...

Like so many, Newsome makes plans for this life as if it will never end, and plans for the next one as if it will never begin.

The news of his death will be a relief to the entire planet. That and the passing of his child sharing pedo pal, Justin Tru-feaux.

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"It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes"

-- Joseph Stalin

Up here in The Democratic People's Republic of Canuckistan, some of us call him "Justine Castreau."

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That's what I meant-thank you. I 'SWYPED' the text from my phone. It changed count to control.

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And Aunt Nan? Ding Dong the witch is dead!

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Thank you for stating that California Governor Newsom should parden Sirhan Sirhan, a man who did NOT kill RFK Sr. RFK Jr. acknowledges that Sirhan Sirhan is innocent. Sirhan's imprisonment is a complete debacle. Newsom may be committing political suicide - I sure hope so.

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I think Kamala Harris also denied parole for Sirhan Sirhan when she was AG in California.

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Yes, she did.

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Sirhan never killed anyone, just like Lee Harvey Oswald didn't. And the real murderers just walk free. Crime doesn't pay? In what world?

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Gavin Newsome is a WEF toady/suckhole and an all-around bought piece of shit. But like Justin Castreau here in Canada seems there's no way California can get rid of him.

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so far....

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Oh Professor Miller. Without a MSM channel (and I think Trump, if he had any smarts at all, would have bought a major news channel instead of forming Truth Social)...how can we possibly teach the bulk of the country about all these "Official Stories", as Liam Sheff so eloquently wrote.

I despair. You have NO idea how many people my age (baby boomer) have NO CLUE about JFK, RFK, MLK, and all the other crap they have foisted on us as the official narrative.

Its almost all of them. They think any derivation from what ACTUALLy happened is a conspiracy theory. They will not and I am afraid CANNOT change their brains...they were hard-wired by the official narrative and cannot ever ever ever take another look.

I am so sad. You must be so upset.

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This is a pretty deep imprint for some. Even John Kiriyaku is still sitting on the fence about the assassinations.. funny because he knows this stuff goes on....

Didn't see even the WikiLeaks guy Julian Assange or Edward Snowden bring it up.

And then you realize that they were silent during the convid scam.... And look back and also see that they were also silent about 9/11 and wonder why even bother to convince them. They're from another time, dinosaurs... When the government was not " bad" lol...

"And then there is the psychological effect of the Big Lie which is axiomatic in gaslighting. The paradox here is that the bigger the lie, the harder it is for the mind to bridge the gulf between perceived reality and the lie that authority figures are painting as truth. I believe that the prospect of being deceived evinces a primitive emotional response on a par with staring death in the face. We are hard-wired to fear deception because we have evolved to interpret it as an existential threat. That’s why deception can elicit the same emotional response as the miscalculation of a serious physical threat. Lies told to us don’t always bear the same cost as a misjudged red light, but the primitive part of the brain can’t make this distinction and we rely on cerebral mediation for a more appropriate but delayed response. And in the long run, the lie is often just as dangerous as the physical threat. Many government whoppers – ‘safe and effective’ – do cost lives.

To avoid the death-like experience of being deceived, a mental defence is erected to deny that the lie is happening."

(From https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/alleged-cia-involvement-in-jfk-assassination-goes-mainstream-so-now-what/ )

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when authority figures are 'painting lies as truth', RUN AWAY! we're being bullied into believing the officials' lies, but need to put up resistance as best we can. transparency is a first.

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All it would take is for one RICH person who KNOWS that the MSM are the brainwashing propoganda arm of the government, to buy out an ABC/FOX/CNN, etc...it would turn the country around.

Can we all not get together and form a syndicate and buy one? Because my age group will NEVER TURN OFF THE DAMN TV.

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One rich person can be eliminated more easily than JFK, RFK, MLK were. Musk is already skating on thin ice. They cost him $200B by dumping his stock.

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Elon is a young global leader graduate. I'm pretty sure he is controlled opposition

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Ran into this video on Darkhorse Podcast clips:

Vivek Ramaswamy sues World Economic Forum for false connection on WEF website (with Bret Weinstein) - YouTube DarkHorse Podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IJ1isysz7E

So the WEF claims he is YGL, which he ain't. They called him and he refused to join. He told them take that down. They say each time "OK, no problem". And then don't do it. So he's had to sue them. Quite obvious WEF is associating people they don't like with themselves, like him & Elon Musk, in order to undermine their popularity. How's that for devious, evil slimeballs?

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Well he is a Soros puppet so I think it's highly likely that no one wants a wef puppet as a president and he is trying to separate himself like the sociopaths they all are

https://www.pdsoros.org/meet-the-fellows/vivek-ramaswamy

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Could be a typical CIA "poisoning the Well" strategy by associating their opposition with the bad guys, even if their may be some minor grain of truth to it. Soros might have given Vivek a scholarship when he was in college which means zip. You need to see through their devious schemes. They do this ALL THE TIME.

When Matt Gaetz came on the seen there were commenters out in droves associating him with McConnell and other establishment whores. Commenters who just appeared out of nowhere and then disappeared just as quickly. Obvious Sockpuppets. Too cowardly to even show their true views, if they have any.

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I'd have to research this but it's possible that as people are being targeted they are worried about being held accountable and this is a way for them to start planting seeds in people's mind that they are lying about others. For example, Ashton Kutcher was on the list I saw and now I automatically think his charity is a pedo charity. To be fair I did email and ask for help and got no reply back so that doesn't help with my assumptions.

I don't think it's to undermine them, even if this is true but they are evil slimeballs so anything is possible

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As I stated correctly, Vivek and Elon Musk are the opposite of the Soros/WEF gang of Globalist Malthusian Parasites. Focus on the obvious stooges, not on 5D chess fables.

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No he wasn't. Where do you get that from? I have the full list including the precursor Global Leaders of Tomorrow graduates.

I pressed someone about that claim and all they could come up with is a little blurb on the WEF site talking a bit about Elon Musk. They have those on most prominent global personalities.

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He graduated in 2008 and has even commented on it publically. He said, yes he did it but decided it wasn't for him.

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Show a link to that.

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My thoughts, too! That purchaser would be gone in one fashion or another.

Didn't google eliminate parlor early on?

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I have noticed the same, including among the most seemingly intelligent and open minded. It is just plain SAD.

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I adore RFKjr,his bible he penned, the real Satanthony Fauci cabal, and his warm handshake.

Gavin is slime mold.

When I ran against him for SF killafornia mayor 2007,

I went directly to jail, and had the grasshopper taxicab business shut down forever.

Thank you ScKamala, how's that depopulation going girl¿

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Do you know what Bobby Kennedy thinks about this matter? I am not trying to make a snarky comment, it is just that it is his father's murder is involved.

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Bobby Kennedy went to see Sirhan, and talked to him at length. On the basis of that conversation, and the literature on the assassination, he urged that Sirhan be paroled. (The rest of the family was against it.)

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I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me that. This is very interesting information. I know a few facts around this case, but I didn't know that.

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Read my comment above. It takes more than Bobby seeing him

I sure missed his follow up and media interviews telling all of us this was an innocent man

MCM seems to know all about it. So he can fill us in with the details

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Trish, please don't ask me to write a mini-dissertation here. There are several first-rate books about that murder. Lisa Pease's book came out a few years ago. You can start there.

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RFK jr says he read the actual autopsy report. The shots were point blank range from behind with upward trajectory. This is according to a recent interview of RFK Jr. where he goes into far more detail than this, including the fact that none of the shots fired by Sirhan hit RFK even though he was guided into the kitchen where Sirhan was waiting. RFK was not supposed to go into the kitchen but was abruptly guided there apparently to be ambushed.

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I remember last year (I think) reading that the Kennedy family did not want Sirhan released but RFK Jr did... I’ll bet there’s an article or two on the internet about it.

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When did he see him and what year did he do this?

Did he file paperwork so it became official? Again what year?

We all know aside from words Bobby going on the record would have backed it up with action.

So, did he

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Mark, can you please provide a further brief executive summary on why Sirhan is not the murderer of RFK? or provide a link to something written. Thank you.

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Arnold, the results of Thomas Noguchi's autopsy report are well-known and widely available. There are also several excellent books on that assassination. Please check it out yourself.

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Sirhan was an obvious case of the CIA using its psychotropic drugs on an individual. Their MK Ultra experiments produced the Charles Manson murder rampage in 1969. And others. Including the Unabomber,Ted Kaczynski:

Was Charles Manson a CIA Asset? w/Tom O'Neill | Joe Rogan - YouTube

youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU

World's Scariest Drug (Documentary Exclusive):

youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04

Scopolamine, also known as "The Devil's Breath." It's a substance so intense that it renders a person incapable of exercising free will.

And MK Ultra is still alive and well, contrary to the lies the CIA has told. And they are doing their experiments even on Canadians, illegally and against their will, within Canada. They use powerful hallucinogens, which likely they administer in a gaseous format.

Their obvious goal is to be able to destroy the credibility of anti-establishment personalities like say Tucker Carlson, or even RFKjr, although they would probably be too exposed to use those methods on them. More likely an up an coming personality they want to nip in the bud.

Exposing them to their psychotropic drugs and other means of mind control they will try to get a person to do something crazy and they will jump all over that event with their Psyops team, making that person look like a dangerous fanatic. Amazingly they can even implant false memories into a persons mind, without them being aware of it being done.

Essentially they can use these mind altering methods as an advance form of their favorite method of using Agent Provocateurs to provoke violent & destructive behavior by a targeted group. A technique also loved by the FBI.

The Roots Of Modern Eco-Terrorism: From MK Ultra And The Unabomber To Maurice Strong And Yuval Harari:

https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/the-roots-of-modern-eco-terrorism

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I loved this interview with O'Neill. Oh my gosh. So revealing. I suggest it to anyone who will listen.

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Have his book (not read yet). "Chaos."

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Read A Lie to Big to Fail by Lisa Pease

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thank Bob for reco!

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Read most of the book. I could not get in to her style of writing--found it confusing to follow. She lost me on too many details—too granular evaluation of people, clothing details, names, places and overturning too many stones. Just basically gave up half thru and began to skim and turning to the last chapter--honestly even the last chapter did not help. I find that the author/speaker Jim DiEugenio to be easier to grasp on the issues specifically towards the JFK plot--she is connected to his reader community. The RFK Senior plot is murky compared to the stark realities of the JFK events.

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Demonstrably FALSE, there was NO Mason family and nobody there killed anyone. You were taken in, that's okay, we all get fooled by the Agency media every now and again. https://www.bitchute.com/video/A27kqt9K6CMh/

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The Manson family did certainly exist, they did kill people—and they had high state connections (which you seem intent on covering up). I recommend Tom O'Neill's Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties.

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Sharon Tate was not killed.

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OK, I'll bite - because I'll believe anything at this point - but can you back up, with facts and documents, that assertion that Sharon Tate was not killed?

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Miles Mathis put together an interesting case.

Certainly, none of us can know for sure what happened.

But the CIA was all over the Laurel Canyon scene, and they were

undoubtedly involved. http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf

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Manson obviously existed. As did Oswald and Shiran, but did any of them kill the people we are told they killed?

Did Oswald not also have unusual State connections? Was he not also linked to the Kennedy’s through their Russian uncle George?

How is it even possible that someone from Oswald background have any link to the Kennedy’s through uncle George?

So is Bobby also going to come out and ask for a pardon for Oswald, or will he go along with that is who killed his uncle, but Shiram did not kill his dad

What a double bind he is in

Yes, MCM people, many are starting to see it

BYW, how long did you teach propaganda. Yet you respond the Manson family killed people. How are you so certain?

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I'm pretty sure Jr. does not believe Oswald killed his uncle. Has he positively affirmed that he thinks he did?

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We can agree to disagree.

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Well, certainly we can. But I take it you find O'Neill's book inadequate (or worse)?

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True. Charles Manson did not kill anyone either.

He was a CIA actor. The entire thing was another psyop.

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That Manson didn't kill anyone himself is well-established.

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I do not believe he was actually imprisoned either.

Miles Mathis makes some interesting points in his writings.

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I do, but his lawyer (personal, not criminal) used to date a friend of mine and talked a little about him. Not to say he didn't have communication and privleges -he once showed us a letter written by manson bitching about someone taking his guitar and the food sucked- but I'm pretty sure he was in prison, he was one of the institutionalized guys who were more comfy in prison. He still ran his outlaw gang from there, like many others do..

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Are prisoners in Folsom allowed to wear beards and long hair?

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Jul 16, 2023·edited Jul 16, 2023

If their lawyers get them permission, probably. Charlie got the country club treatment. Besides I've seen other pics of prisoners with long hair in Cali.

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Now do the moon landings

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Why delve into non sequiturs rather than staying on topic?

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You’re the one who mentioned Psyop

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That is not a non sequitur.

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At least we agree the moon landings were real

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He certainly covers some interesting material there.

Much of which is verifiable.

I question everything these days. Nothing is real.

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There is a similar, but worse case playing out right now in South Africa. In 1994 Alison Botha was abducted by 2 men who took her to a beach, raped her, slashed her stomach open and slit her throat from ear to ear. In that state she managed to hold herself together and crawl to the highway. She was picked up by a vet who took her to the hospital. She recovered to become one of the most calmly inspirational speakers relating how her inner attitude has enabled her to rise above the horror.

The South African 'justice' system has just released her 2 attackers...

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Had they been Black, they would still be in jail. Those two White fellas, Frans du Toit and Theuns Kruger, epitomize the meaning of monsters. Ms Botha was not the only victim.

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Newsome is a puppet like sniffin Joe

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