You are wise. All vaxes are entirely unnecessary as viruses don't exist, thus rendering them utterly pointless.
I would encourage you to throw out their demeaning label as words have power and accepting the "Anti" wording implies you have a problem. Are you also an "Anti-drugger" and an "Anti-murderer" and an "Anti-Newser", etc. etc.? See how that works? Aren't we all fundamentally "Anti" the things that cause us harm? But we would never accept such ludicrous labels. They are attempting to smear us with such pitiful rhetoric. Take back control.
You're a "Pro-Truther" and they're "Anti-Truthers". That puts the universe back into balance and re-establishes sanity.
Me neither! Always tried to "get away" with little to no vaccines for our pets - I treated all our horses, dogs, cats, geese and chickens the same as our sons - with herbs and propolis.
But now? I have put veterinarians out of my world along with NPR and many of my old friends (though I think that might have been their choice). I've never had TV or a cell phone or been to an allopath........life is good.
Wow. I keep reading stories like yours in the comments from different substacks - from horse and dog breeders, pet owners etc. Our beloved mongrel stray dog - who escaped his sheepherder captors - could run like the wind, and was always so happy and healthy until, not thinking, I let a vet give him multiple "mandatory for travel" vaccines all at one time. After that he would have seizures when running along side of us bike riding or hiking. He lived long, completed his task of raising our four sons, and died at 18, but I know he would have lived well into his 20s without the poisonous injections. We've seen friend's purebreds die horrible deaths immediately after multiple vaccinations several times! WTF.
A major problem is, many people when going away, need to place their pets in temporary boarding.. and most of them insist that pets are vaccinated. Once again.. it’s a lovely multi-billion dollar big-pharma scam at the expense of our pets lives. And just like children, they have absolutely no say in it.
You (incorrectly) assume I am an Atheist and your spiel is a classic example of being brainwashed. You sound just like a Muslim. I have found Yeshua to be something completely different from what you have. If you are intellectually honest and not brainwashed you should watch this whole video. https://youtu.be/wIerrc6DFP8
I am also a proud anti-vaxxer, and in my case, that is because I paid close attention in immunology, physiology, microbiology and virology courses in medical school and can see that a person no more needs a vaccine than deltoid piercing jewelry that leaks neurotoxins with antigenic wastewater.
connecting vaxx effectiveness to existence of virus is a very sinister argument ... these have nothing to do with each other.
it is aimed for unvaxxed to put them on the wrong path, so when they get sick (which inevitable they will), they will doubt the other side of the argument that vaxx might work after all
Oh they do, do they? Funny how nobody has ever been able to find a unicorn virus in the real world. They can only pretend to invent them via their deceptive monkey kidney culturing process or their human RNA fragment assembling process. Lots of "fake viruses" can be manufactured but none can actually be found in REALITY. How interesting.
Here's a video should you care to learn about the pseudoscience known as "virology". I'd recommend you invest your time should you be interested in no longer being fooled -> https://www.bitchute.com/video/jajyAdPMdzfJ/
I believe in viruses because I believe in Hepatitis C.
I taught in the Bronx (NYC) for many years.
Despite having been warned to wear gloves if exposed to the blood of my students, I never did.
The Bronx has extremely high rates of many diseases: AIDS, tuberculosis, asthma, diabetes, and Hepatitis C. I was exposed to TB and, although I never caught it, antibodies for TB exist in my body and TB tests I take are always positive. TB is a disease caused by bacteria.
And I had Hepatitis C for about 20 years. Harvoni produced by Gilead cured it, but the disease has left me with liver and esophageal damage.
Perhaps, viral theory will turn out to be incorrect. But right now, if you're bitten by a dog, get rabies shots so you don't die. And if you get Hep C, ask about Harvoni.
Duesberg and Mullis don't believe that the HIV virus causes AIDS and I agree with them. However, to my knowledge, neither has denied the existence of viruses.
there is something going around. andrew kaufman cant deny it. there are billions people sick from biden etc. i was too for a couple of weeks. this is contagious.
however, instead of debating what it is and where it came from, lets learn about Spike Protein which is contained in trillions in so-called vaxx.
Spike Protein is the real threat and it is being shed from the vaxxed to unvaxxed. to say there is nothing to worry about is a mistake.
I'll tell ya what's going around -> Light. Light that is exposing the repressed, stored traumas and conflicts that are held in our bodies (aka "darkness"). Said traumas are being released from the bodies of those who are not STILL/QUIET enough in their daily lives, don't sleep well, and haven't done any inner-work. The light is FORCING the traumas out. This is "Covid".
Colds and flus result from dissatisfaction/disappointment and worry/fear -> "stink conflicts". Your body is protecting you from your figurative fear/worry/unhappiness that you say "stinks" (like, "my family member is sick and this stinks and I'm afraid I'll breathe in an imaginary bug"). Your psyche translates this thought literally and attempts to protect you from blocking your nasal, bronchial and lung passages to protect you from the STINK.
Yeah, almost nobody is ready to hear it, least of all our "trusted" institutional leaders. It destroys "victim consciousness", which has been carefully crafted for centuries that they will fight to uphold at all costs. This is what gives THEM power over the ignorant masses.
We've been lied to about everything that gives THEM an advantage over us that we can't easily verify for ourselves. The cause of diseases, not just fake "infectious diseases", like cancer, heart disease, auto-immune disease, degenerative disease, etc. etc. follows the same pattern. Different albeit very specific unresolved psychological conflicts lead to them all. Fear and judgment are at the root.
You're in charge pandelis, and you underestimate the power of your own thoughts to a degree not yet imaginable. This is what "THEY" don't want you to know. Because when you figure it out, THEY will no longer be able to control you. It's this simple.
I suspect germ theory is basically correct and that viruses exist, although I've read some convincing arguments by Janine Roberts and Leon Scheff that they do not. I agree that it's bad strategy to link the two arguments.
it is done on purpose to divert the discussion from spike protein which is the real killer. you might want to follow this guy ... really good research.
Never thought I would be discussing male circumcision tonight Eddy! Based on my personal family observations and customs; 3 grandsons, one, the oldest circumcised, born in 1995. The second two not circumcised and both born after 2006. I think culturally in North America the practice will die out. To be honest being born in 1950 to be circumcised or not wasn't a big issue.
My father was uncircumcised and was born in 1925. My first husband born in 1950 was inadvertently circumcised because at age 13 he was wrestling with his brothers and somehow managed to split his foreskin. He had an emergency circumcision. My second husband isn't circumcised and was born in 1940. So it's a mixed bag.
However years later I became aware of the practice of female circumcision in other countries. Again, another cultural and in some cases a religious belief that made these practices acceptable. To me as a female this is the greater tragedy.
Unlike male circumcision, female circumcision destroys the pleasure centre. I guess the intent is she won't wander, looking for satisfaction elsewhere. Why would she? There's nothing there.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about something other than covid.
While I agree with you in principle, based on my husband's experience doing it at an older age rather than newly born seemed to be a lot more painful.
As an aside. It was all the rage to yank out tonsils during the later part of my childhood. I had mine removed at age 13 and was in agony after. My younger brother and sister had theirs removed when they were 5 or 6 and didn't share the same horrific experience that I had. Today, we no longer yank out tonsils and I believe that we will no longer continue to remove foreskins. But I'm still worried and concerned about the girls in third world countries that are still being forced to undergo these rituals.
Also a hatred of sex (and women), which was eventually picked up by Paul of Tarsus and became a characteristic of Christianity. Maimonides made it this explicit in the 12th century:
"Maimonides (Moses ben Maimon "Rambam", CE 1135–1204), who apart from being a great Torah scholar was also a physician and philosopher, argued that circumcision serves as a common bodily sign to members of the same faith. He also asserted that the main purpose of the act is to repress sexual pleasure, with the strongest reason being that it is difficult for a woman to separate from an uncircumcised man with whom she has had sex."
Interesting! Yet, the Christians and Jews hate on the other Abrahamic 'religion' and their circumcision practices; then they get really mad when I say this.
From my observations as an ESL teacher who has taught people from all over the world, the Christians are the biggest haters, Jews and Muslims slightly less likely to literally demonize those who reject their gods.
Circumcision on women in Africa is even more barbaric than the male circumcision practiced by (mostly but not exclusively) the Jews.
This message is as terrifying as it is simple and compelling. The difficult challenge is how do we overcome this dissonance in our friends and family who made this decision?
The other effect of this is to create division. In Marx’s writings, it was the proletariat & the bourgeoisie, in CRT division is by race, and now they’ve created a division that is more psychologically nuanced, because it is rooted in decisions we have made which have serious implications that stir strong emotions - a master stroke for the propagandists.
I think they did not account adequately for the power of truth, which once known, will overcome.
I Ching states the Power of Inner Truth prevails. Friends family lead from behind, or in front do not confront creates more resistance...just go your way and they either wake or not wake....you can not change any of them. My sisters brother and friends all got shots I have let them go....my brother thinks he got covid again..i tell him he got vaxx shedding from GF or reinfected. Simple leave at that.
We can hope your last sentence comes to fruition. I see the essence of this article playing out right in front of me. Almost a year ago I realized that discussing the topic with someone who is vaxxed would almost certainly cause them significant fear even if they didn't believe a word I said, which in and of itself, can cause many problems, including death.
I don't see an easy path forward. The damage has been done. They need to be left with something hopeful/positive or else I believe a discussion can only cause them more harm.
Disagree. See my post below. I watched a symposium on Zoom yesterday with a group of 12 doctors from around the world who are treating the vaccine injured and finding some success. A compassionate culture is springing up as a natural reaction to our plight and people are finding courage—even in the medical community. This must be the path forward. We must help the vaxed to find the tools to heal. We are better together.
Great to hear this. Yes, the vaccinated need to know they can be helped and that we are on their side. We need to stick together. Together, we will get through it.
You just hit the nail on the head for me. Thankyou. I couldn't have expressed it better. That's exactly how I feel.
Today, my cheeky almost 16 year old grandson texted me a bunch of self made memes mocking everything I believe in regarding covid. He believes I am crazy regarding my views on covid.
I could respond and send him terrible articles about the side effects of these shots. He's had 2 so far.
But I can't. Imagine telling him what I believe is the truth. It could destroy him.
This is in my opinion a horrible place to be. He is just one of many in my family that took the shots. I tried to warn them all before they succumbed but to no avail.
I have no idea at this point how to deal, react or cope with this situation with regards to my beloved family. I feel like a helpless standbyer watching a car crash in motion, knowing there is nothing I can do.
I feel your pain and discouragement Helen. I'm holding out hope that there is a viable way to unwind the damaging effects, but thus far, nothing certain is forthcoming. What I do know for sure is that FEAR can be deadly. And that's the last thing I want those I love to feel. So mum's the word for now. But let's stay hopeful and positive!
I never talked about COVID. I've only said, "Hope you feel better" to people who would start talking about it. Never allowed them to go on and on with describing their symptoms, etc. or their vaccinations or their relative's symptoms. Certainly never discussed my health in any way, shape, or form, not in the past 2 years, not ever.
People need to stop discussing their medical history so openly. Keep it private.
Great comment. I was just about to shut this thread off. Absolutely agree. Get out of the victim mentality.
We the ones, who didn't drink the Kool aid really don't have time to develop support groups etc. for their misguided plight. The bigger battle is still there. Don't get side tracked with self virtuous platitudes and actions for the great misinformed. If we get bogged down in that now all is lost. We can help them later. But only if we win.
Fair encouragement to keep on keeping on and rely on the truth. I still want to get through to people I love. So I will keep pressing in with them too. Not a victim, just not giving up on them.
I'm not giving up on them either when it comes to my family but honestly if you have any tips on how to do this without severe ramifications, which I have experienced in the past , I would love to know what's working for you. I walk in a minefield everytime I try to bring up anything related to covid. with every vaccinated person I know.
Every time I said that we are wasting our time trying to get these people to see the truth I was told I should be more optimistic and not give up on them. Throughout my life, I have tried very hard to help people in their careers (I steer clear of giving advice about their personal lives - too many landmines), but I always was quick to give up on people who obviously did not also want to help themselves. Not worth my time; there were many others to help who genuinely wanted to improve their lives.
I don't even try to help the vaccinated or pro-vaxx people I know; they will never see (let alone listen to) the truth. I concentrate on building and strengthening relationships that I know will be productive, especially in the difficult times that lie ahead.
We cannot overcome the dissonance. We have to let it go. We've been trying since March 2020 and the great news that HCQ could be a preventative...
What we have to do is let them go, and claw back our country if we can from the globalists.
Us unvaxxed have to do it. How, I do not know, although I have some ideas.
As the to vaxxed...let them come to it in their own time, if they can. Some will, some will not.
I think above all we have to disband or takeover the six major media conglomerates. Vote red wave in November. Put the breakup of the MSM at the top of the list. Once we can put on what the truth is (and Trump could help us do a country wide citizen class action buyout of the MSM to make up for his blindness)we can change the narrative, and wake the rest of the people up. Without that, he don't have a chance.n This is war. We need to do this pronto.
As Scotland is handed on a plate to the globalists by the SNP (what an Orwellian joke their name is, when they should be called the Scottish Post-Modern Party) with its children being indoctrinated, jabbed and groomed, Neil is a great antidote to the execrable Queen Nicola. He seems to have a very helpful postman, who gets lots of letters just addressed to Neil Oliver, Stirling, and even Neil Oliver, King of Scotland, Stirling! I hope they don't manage to neutralise him.
I think that's an astute possible scenario. The timing must be perfect and everything will come to the boiling point. When the peasants start to revolt the next stage of containment and mandates will make the covid Era look like a walk in the park.
There is a perfect storm of events on the horizon, and putting them in place while the population was distracted by covid, was the perfect and brilliant cover.
In some ways we've gone from the war on terror to the war on pandemics.
And while, historically the peasants have revolted in the past, this time the oppressors have the advantage with Technology.
I'm 72 years old and at this point I fail to see a positive outcome during my lifetime.
And while I can say that I am responsible and grateful for two generations to leave behind upon my inevitable demise, at this point not one of them is aware or concerned about the inevitable tsunami that will surely breach the shores of humanity.
Think of containment and mandates like The Hunger Games. Way worse than covid and with it a very compliant population; based on the reactions of the masses to Covid. I think the non stop Covid Ops has taken the fight and spirit out of the majority of the population.
Obviously you and I don't feel like that or we wouldn't be on these substacks but reality is we are a minority.
No, it will lead to anger. So I think we have to take over the means of communication...and we will get pushback from the Administrative state. But if all of us contribute to a buy out/break up group. and make this our newly elected congress'es main thrust BEFORE anything else (I.e. fund the anti trust arm and mandate (YUP THAT WORD) that they sell off their MSM channels and we are lined up to buy it out over any globalist (including Blackrock vanguard and SS)
then we have a fighting chance to take these people who have believed every lie, and change them into constitutional freedome fighters. THAT is the chink in their armor. That we MUST do.
Once again after reading this post I agree with you. As you said; Red/ Blue doesn't matter. It's the same in Canada. Controlled opposition. A wonderful distraction for the masses. And given their success with covid it seems to be working very well.
The Ukraine/ Russian current conflict is another wonderful fabricated diversion.
War is and has always been profitable for the select few. Raytheon must be laughing all the way to the bank. And as for Blackrock, they have an operating capital bigger than most if not all countries.
Speaking as someone who voted for Trump twice, I'm sick of how so many keep looking to him and his "white hats" as our hope. This may lead to millions of unnecessary deaths--not hyperbole--because it keeps them from taking steps to secure a local food supply or means of protecting our communities and families. Just sit around snorting the drug of Hopium. Trust the plan. The Great Orange Hope.
Should be obvious by now that Trump was always one of the swamp creatures. The only 4D chess he played was with those who supported him. Hopium and Trump shots.
Have decided to be authentic with everyone. Of course, still out of a job due to jab. Noticing people turn away from me. It's tough but so am I. I feel the zombies can sense the vibe, or whatever word you want to use. We are like the cross to the vampires
Kelliann, you are not alone. And I got a job! I do live in the south so it has been easier, though my zoom class new job is based in NYC. Keep trying and stay authentic.
On point! I've seen this in action in others and also in myself. I am NOT vaccinated and have had covid 19, and possibly (I never got tested), the lesser variant about two months ago. But I see this mind-game in myself, as many friends and family members have been vaccinated and I cannot conceive of their lifetimes having been reduced by the vaccine. And... neither can they. So it is a big evil no-go swamp of a discussion topic. I recently met a couple at a concert. She was a nurse at the same hospital I went to and was diagnosed as hiving covid 19, in July 2020. This gal and I really hit it off about the music and the venue (I'm 74, she about 34, and her hubby was with her... this was not sexual, just friendly). We were yakking it up, the husband occasionally joining in, very friendly and warm, and then the subject of covid came up and I told her how I was 'refused' treatment (HCQ) and simply 'sent home' to live or die. (They told me that if my lips turned blue or black, to get myself to the emergency ward ASAP. That was it.) Well, once I brought that up I could see the veils on her eyes descend. The conversation began to shut down. I would say that even at this late stage, 90% of people WILL NOT believe such a thing was done to us. AND, if and when they find out, they will, I believe, literally, tear the doctors and employers who forced them to take the shot... to shreds. But the 'if' is a big one. We are still not there. Just not there yet.
I agree we or they not yet...but with each death and strange occurence we draw closer ....in the big Hospitals people are still required to wear mask. I wonder if they are still leaching blood from patients? One must shake their heads about how slow to the Truth people are Fear Doubt are the big enemies here.
I had dinner with a dear vaccinated friend the other night. I tried to explain the EUA situation....that there were no early treatments given because they wouldn't have been able to give out the EUA vax if early treatments did exist. She said well your saying that 1 million people died because they did not receive early treatment? I said yes, many people died because they withheld information about early treatments. First she say well they didn't know back then about those treatments, because they would never have done that. I said, yes, many people knew about the treatments and the information was demonized and withheld. So she said well if what you are saying is true this worse than 9/11. I said I guess it is. She thought for a minute and said, I just can't believe that. It is too terrible.
And I didn't push any further or give her anymore facts because she was so upset.
I had this happen when I told my mom more bullets were recovered at the scene of Bobby Kennedy's assassination than could be held in Sirhan Sirhan's gun, so he couldn't have been the only one who fired. She said "I don't want to think we live in a world like that," with such finality, that was the end of the conversation. I expected skepticism but not an outright denial resting on admitted psychological grounds.
Sometimes this seems like a trail of bread crumbs we leave. You left one for your friend, and hopefully someone else will leave the next one and so on. If we all gently offer the clues, they might be followed eventually.
Dr. Kory testified in front of Congress in either September or November of 2020 (can't remember, I want to say it was November) about ivermectin specifically. The video can be found all over. This is the absolute latest date that anyone can say with a straight face that we didn't know about early treatments.
The maddening thing is that it's so readily available, cheap, and incredibly safe, there was just no reason not to be trying it even with mixed or limited evidence. Well, no benign reason. But then I recently read a comment from a hospital worker over at Steve Kirsch's substack saying their MDs weren't even allowed to give vitamin D to known-deficient patients with covid. Nuremberg 2 can't come soon enough.
Well I worked at 7 WTC and I definitely believe it now. Took me a few years..about 5 to 7 after it happened...I was unwilling to beleive it but then started looking at everything all over again...because of the War in Iraq...and then Libya convinced me...same party differeing uniform, same thing.
This is a bigger false-flag than 9-11. Interestingly enough, many people (in my travels) who see the c-19 false-flag refuse to acknowledge all the previous false-flags.
Polluted food, water, air and fake government and fake money and fake healthcare we tolerate. Many people are able to deny the truth. In old Russia serfs going to the scaffold shouted Long Live the Tsar. Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme due to the little lies we tell ourselves. We are brutalized children even as adults. We prefer the lie. In regards to vaccine deaths my bet is the average soul will buy the lie that no one knew the harm would be greater than the cure. To admit otherwise would probably be so overwhelming psychologically that the nervous breakdown would crush them. After all truth impedes acquisition of material goods and in a largely secular nation money is the Messiah.
No Mark. There is always hope. What we need is a plan. I think we need
to attack the beast where he has his biggest weakeness...communication to the vast
majority of sleepers...the Nightly news. Above I am suggesting we get together, form a
conglomerate of all of us peasants who are unvaxxed, and put together 1) insistance that the first thing congress does is put one of us into the anti trust divison and 2) insist that MSM big 6 sell off their nightly news, and 3) buy them out and run them oursleves. The only way.
Mark, you have documented all the deaths, and done a yeoman's work and are still sane..I am not sure I would be had I done what you are doing. You keep doing it, and let us all put our heads together and figure out how we can blast your work to every person in a forum that all will listen to.
Fucked so many times over so many years the Covid con worked. The election con worked. The cover up works. The Kingdom of God is not of this world after all and to expect Americans to stop and revise everything taught and told is improbable. November likely has another stolen election. And since two years ago the theft worked I doubt not it will once more. We are clearly in a moment of history where all the lies come home to roost. I do not think Americans can wake up. How many remain masked? Congress capitulates. Courts are corrupt. Arguably the over all result of Covid and denial will kill millions and by then the survivors will face a war with Russia.
would say there is hope however appears we have stewardship issues driven by psychological issues which have created for us critical problems for which we currently lack the know-how to undo/solve...
Secular hope, no. Spiritual hope yes. Berdyaev writes on this in his context of the Russian revolution of 1905 and later. With admirable pith and clarity, Berdiaev lays bare the poverty and the narrowness of thought embedded in the culture of several generations of Russian radicalism, from Belinsky to the Marxists. He discloses a virulent strain of pseudo-religious beliefs, barely concealed under the professions of atheism that united the various factions of that schismatic sect. The prime example of this is the elevation of the moral imperative of social justice as the highest category of truth (pravda), above and beyond the criteria of intellectual integrity associated with truth as veritas. He attributes this root phenomenon to “the orientation of their will,” rather than to a defect in thinking.5
But in his conclusion, Berdiaev mitigates his indictment of the misguided rebels by laying the blame squarely on those who still held the reins of power in Russia and ruled it in the name of a debased version of Christianity. He writes: “The Russian intelligentsia has been what Russian history has made it. The sins of our morbid history, of our historical system of government, and of eternal reaction are reflected in its psychological make–up.”6It is a very self-revealing assessment, showing Berdiaev’s irreducible sympathy for the gesture of human liberation, no matter how flawed. It also raises the question of responsibility for the evils in Russian society from the arena of politics to a meta-historical level.
As Berdyaev saw it, the course of historical Christianity, with its sins of omission and commission, can be traced back to its fall away from Christ and His gift of freedom into the trap of the temporal world. That conversion of freedom into necessity is perennially repeated in the tragic fate of creativity in human culture, which reifies every inspired act into an objective value or, worse still, degrades it into a commodity. Formed in the crucible of his personal experience of Christianity, the tragic sense of life is fundamental to Berdyaev’s philosophical outlook. But unlike for Nietzsche, who shared that sense with him, it is not an aesthetic but a spiritual value. https://isi.org/modern-age/nikolai-berdiaev-and-spiritual-freedom-a-reconsideration/
I wish I could be more optimistic, but I feel it's all over.
Look at yourself, for example, a brilliant, charismatic educator, who has been vilified and excluded from the conversation by MSM.
I agree with Caitlin. The Left I knew—anti war, pro-union, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-sexist, and life affirming, is dead. I already feel the boot on my face.
I don't mean to be a total jerk here, but if they had been that badly brutalized as children, they would now totally understand what was actually taking place now. Weary wisdom is one of the few advantages of a truly brutal childhood, if one even survives it. I'm not suggesting that children be further brutalized. Imo, too many have been comfortably coddled into the "acquisition of material goods" tract...is the rub. At many points in almost anyone's life, the choice to reject that tract is always presented, multiple times. And people choose, again and again. I'm not certain we move things too much forward by throwing up our hands at 'fake everything' like we never, ever once were given a choice. But it's a great strategy for holding on to our goodies and avoiding the inevitable slings and arrows of the road less traveled. Damn, without faith?...that's one scary road.
I think otherwise about brutality. . Spiritually speaking we are brutalized but do not recognize it and call it normal. We compare normalcy to the criminal treatment some have at the hands of their parents. We have I think to recognize the social order erected by nominally free people is brutal.
As a formerly severely brutalized child that knew exactly what was going on, all I can say to that is "boo who." There is still a lot of good to work within that "brutal" everyday "normalcy" though. Saved and elevated my life within the confines of your brutal social order. What's in it for you not to recognize the good and to overprivilage it's flaws?
The good. Interesting. Well again you may take umbrage with brutalized but a health care system that relies on insurance money is quite documented in regards to over treatment, under treatment, the wrong treatment and outright murder as a norm. Ivan Illich’s attack on modern medicine, Medical Nemesis, appeared in 1974. The book famously opened with the statement: ‘The medical establishment has become a major threat to health.’ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1732343/pdf/v057p00919.pdf
Yes, growing up around bullies definitely clues you in to the intent of others. Survival is hard work, especially for a kid who has to figure things out quickly and without much guidance.
I’d be interested in finding out about who the Resisters are and how they became that way. As the Bible says, iron sharpens iron.
I think a factor is if the child is healed or not. Without healing, which requires another caring person, the damaged adult will be in a state of denial as Mark describes, and they will find a way to hurt other people, and there is a long tradition of these people joining the medical field.
and they never gave informed consent or package inserts or cons to vaxxine...selling kool aid to kids ...Never Again Human Nature repeats itself Ego is consistent in human behavior. The Crime IS
NO Informed Consent they lined up people in the cars like cattle and gave out shots.
F in hate CA. Could not get out fast enough. How do people stay there and support this insanity. Are there really parents there who want the government to decide on their childrens medical treatments! I’m in shock! Honestly I can’t believe parents aren’t screaming and marching in the streets to stop this!! Are they all zombies??
Where we earn our income (the Franchise Tax Board emulates the USSR in ensuring even if we leave we still have to pay The State. A minimum of 13 conditions c. 2014, to avoid this fate.).
Best place to grow food when the famine hits - our specific location is relatively bug-free and perfect for year-around cultivation.
Constant questions: where will we be least/most vulnerable/free; what state(s) are least/most vulnerable to the same fate as CA.
Cost of changing domicile - we are full-time RVrs, there are only 2 states that we could domicile in ‘problem-free’... we both have Medicare which eliminates health insurance as a problem...gas required to check out possibilities and begin establishing new community so we can become citizens of another state ($3000 to travel 1500 miles, missed a family reunion; and the attendant discomfort due to topic of post+many comments).
That’s a partial list.
Not a reason for us to stay, but for some it is: “stay and fight”.
Every day brings fresh reasons to leave.
I ask every day for Higher Intelligence to infuse my thoughts with inspiration for the right action(s).
I read a book long ago by Larry Dossey called Healing Words about intercessory prayer, in which he presents evidence on effects from prayer. The prayer that seemed to have the most salutory effects was "may the best possible outcome prevail" so I pray this, despite being utterly allergic to organized religious dogma, on my exercycle while listening to mindless music from the fifties (I would refuse to live in a cosmos, should there be an ultimate ground of being that listens, that couldn't get behind Build Me Up Buttercup). Maybe there are consciousnesses beyond our chimp brains that listen, maybe there's a quantum biological field that our concerted attention can move, and maybe it is just like the Niels Bohr horseshoe story: he had a horseshoe on his barn, and someone asked him why a physicist like himself would have such a superstitious luck talisman on his barn, and he said "they say it works whether you believe it or not" ! I think if we all pray, who knows?
Prayer is amazing. And I've never belonged to a religion. And I love that you quoted Niels Bohr. That's my name - Bohr. (My father always called him "Uncle" but we don't know much about my father's lineage.)
All the moms who have known for DECADES that vaccines injured their children- with the American academy of pediatrics schedule … and they were silenced
Now know the government has ALWAYS known
This wasn’t a matter of educating anyone
They’re all aware
And complicit
And have been ….for decades!!!
This NOT new.
This is just more of what they have already gotten away with!!!
RFK Jr. has said he was hounded by a mom to look into the vaccine safety issue. He resisted for quite a long time, but she persisted. And look what her persistance has accomplished! She won him over, because truth was on her side.
Imo, it's not that they don't have the ability to understand reality, they are trapped by their own selective consciousness (dare say "egos"). We are all getting a huge, overdue lesson from the universe on this one. I do believe this is "biblical."
"I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder."
—Werner Herzog
"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, or any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. As that unhappy poet A E Housman put it:
'For Nature, heartless, witless Nature
Will neither know nor care.' "
—From the book, RIVER OUT OF EDEN, by Richard Dawkins.
— If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.
(Thomas Pynchon)
—I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony; but chaos, hostility and murder.”
(Werner Herzog)
Evil: morally reprehensible: sinful, wicked
(Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
The two rhinoceroses at the party to which no one in the theodicy debate has paid attention are the connotation (and denotation) of the word “evil” and the presumption that the presence of what is called “evil” by Christians and other delusional or misinformed souls is an anomaly.
There’s a 1947 short film called Les Assassins de l’Eau Douce (Assassins of Fresh Water). It lasts 27 minutes during which micro-photographed fresh water animals are shown “killing and imbibing one another by every sort of biting, stabbing, stinging, sucking, and ingesting process that the endless ingenuity of Mother Nature has evolved.” (1)
The movie is a microcosm of the universe. From the smallest organisms to vast galaxies, violence is the common denominator, as Herzog correctly observes.
The vast Andromeda galaxy, next to ours, has a violent past that will culminate in it eating our Milky Way, astronomers say. The galaxy's powerful past has seen it eat several smaller galaxies just as it will go on to swallow ours, researchers say.
In the very short time that humans have evolved and attempted to live together, they have tried to limit and control this violence within the tribe and eventually among tribes. They have developed systems of rules and laws-- principles of conduct governing an individual or a group that would become eventually morph into systems of ethics or moral codes after the evolution of religions.
Once gods entered the picture, certain activities were not only unlawful because they threatened the fabric of the social unit, but “evil” or “sinful” because shamans and charlatans informed their flocks that certain actions were offensive to the gods.
The theodicy debate is getting into a fight with a tar- baby. Existentialists, secularists, reductive materialists or whatever the hell we call ourselves(2), will end up stuck and covered with muck. Evil is a Christian word and a Christian concept. The universe we inhabit has never been an Edenic paradise free of “chaos, hostility and murder”.
The problem of evil is a subterfuge. It is answering the wrong question. It’s a waste of time. Evil, like the gods, does not exist: it’s as real as pregnant virgins, walking cadavers, and transubstantiation.
Love and harmony are not the guiding principles of the universe.
Get over it.
1 Raymond Durgnat, Luis Bunuel, (Berkeley and Los Angeles California, University of California Press, 1977) p.94 “
2 “Atheist” is not acceptable. How can one be without something that doesn’t exist?
Yes it is and they know that now. Hence the semi-repentace. Let me tell them that semi-repentace is not good enough. I want to see confessions that cannot be mistaken.
I recently read some of the testimonies of the Nuremberg doctors. A lot of them went all the way to the gallows insisting, that given their individual circumstances, that they had no other choice than to do the things that they had done.
When one pares down the Christian theme to "God sacrifices himself to himself" (a supposed improvement on demanding sacrifices from all), charges of atheistic nihilism and solipsism are a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
But there's clearly something about Sacrifice that humans resonate with. The entire covid horror is a Symphony in the key of human sacrifice: sacrifice your job, sacrifice your health, sacrifice your kids' health, sacrifice simple human pleasures like family holidays or nights out. And none of this is by mistake. There are real demons demanding these sacrifices, they are well aware of what they are demanding, and their hunger for your pain and your destruction is bottomless.
I think it's a result. Jews are quite keen on ritual sacrifices and scapegoating, the Aztecs would do their ripping out of beating hearts.. it's a repeating theme in human culture.
That's why—in our now-more-secular world—it's a piece of cake for the behavioral scientists and marketeers employed in the covid bloodbath to tap into that vein of spasmodic self-destructive energy.
Not when one is correct and one is wrong. The only way that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely is the situation where God believes in God and where is the "sacrifice" you talk of in the resurrection? The only way anything can exist in this conceptual multiverse is if God believes in God to make it self-consistent. Bootstrapping. As the "creator" in "Blade Runner" said about providing a cushion for their minds .... https://youtu.be/yWPyRSURYFQ you would never know that it wasn't real, that it was a cushion for your mind nothing more.
Fantasy? How about the fantasy of Christianity? —The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
I realized that aspect too, while first working on writing up Todd Callender’s interview about the 2005 WHO International Health Regulations:
“The goals and actions of the individual humans working on the global Covid-19 democide project are so brazenly and profoundly evil that good human minds shut down the instant they confront the information. We recoil instinctively — emotionally, cognitively and spiritually — from the extraordinary saturation of evil; we struggle to grasp how it can be so comprehensive in its scope and destructive in its force.
The human perpetrators and their Satanic accomplices have instituted many layers of legal and media control and distortion of information to demoralize and confuse their victims.
But our natural recoiling phenomenon, our fingertip-on-a-hot-stove natural human withdrawal from evil, provides them with powerful additional camouflage for the evil acts, because the mind of the observer will self-add the camouflage of "this is so evil, it can't possibly be true" adding to the layers of legal and media propaganda cover the perpetrators control and impose themselves.”
I admire that woman so much. She really has done great work revealing the underlying laws that were passed while we were sleeping....Senator Malcolm Roberts spoke out today saying "We understand what you did and how you do it (paraphrasing) and we will hunt you down.
On the flip side, I don’t think this operation went nearly as well as they hoped and planned. They claim they got over 70% to take one shot but less people took the 2nd, only 50% took the first booster and 30% took a 2nd booster (their numbers). The Expose revealed per UK data they likely had similar results on the initial uptake although they claim it was much higher. Hardly anyone took their 5 and under to get jabbed in the US. I don’t know if people are going to admit they got duped but their behavior seems to suggest they aren’t onboard. I don’t think the CDC, Fauci, Wen etc. and the media would all be rushing to attempt to re-write history and changing their position if they were winning this.
Well, it remains to be seen how "well" they've done. If they wanted a significant reduction in the global population, they sure got that, as the overall numbers have been crashing worldwide; and don't forget how many died of lockdowns, etc.
Will we ever know the real numbers? I don't know and I don't think so, but what I do know is they did not get rid enough of the control group. They are what is left to face the truth.
On the other hand, we might be overestimating their strategic abilities and their ability to control us.
A black swan event...like a volcano going off becaues we are in a solar minimum and it is much more likely...might make people realize IT is stupid to want to dim the sun or cool the earth....and that these idiots are STUPID.
Everyone of us must face our demons inside first. Then we can accept the outer demons.
What has preceded this is the notion of there being no God. Then No God. Then No evil. Lucifer’s best trick. No evil. Not recognizing that evil is well and has seduced 5 biillion people into getting a vaxxine that is not a vaxxine that is lethal.
I am anti vaxx too for 27 years ......and call me whatever you like ....i worked for Big pharma. And woke up during my 7 years while selling chemotherapy. We all wake up or die oblivious Waking up is a punch in the gut. But face your demons and burst your illusions its worth the strange journey after you begin to really radar evil asap.
At the time I was selling chemotherapy, which I thought was cutting edge medicine. That was the real gut lunch, realizing that for all our medical expertise and sophistication it was a big lie.
Holy cow this conversation started a year ago lol. Hope alls well in your heart.
My gut punch came by recognizing that Homeopathy was healing on an energetic level. Most everything we do in modern medicine is done by dosing medicines that are thought to do the healing.
I'm about 30 pages from finishing Arendt's The Origins of Totalitarianism, and here it is - the incomprehensibility of (and therefore inability to see) "radical evil."
Tell me more...is that it? Because I am convinced it is not their ability to comprehend, but their inability to accept it..??? or is that the same thing?
I guess if comprehend is used in the fullest sense, not just to understand intellectually but to be able to even grasp the impact, the fact, then, yes, is may be very nearly the same thing.
That could very well be - and I haven't read the article you attached yet. But if you're talking about the banality of evil, what is the origin of radical evil? It doesn't necessarily arise from original thinking - Dr. Evil. And you don't get a pass for being commonplace but thinking beyond thinkable limits. Sorry, I'm just formulating thoughts here. I guess I'll go finish the book and read the article.
Hannah Arendt's book about Eichmann's trial is called Eichmann In Jerusalem: A Report On the Banality of Evil. Her book angered many people because of her characterization of Eichmann as a dull bureaucrat who was just following orders. Eichmann lied during his trial to make it seem as though that were the reality. Arendt fell for his lies. Not everyone did!
We now have hard evidence that he was lying, via voice recordings that have come to light in which he speaks to another Nazi (after the war) about his feelings toward the Jews and what he was trying to accomplish. His goal was to murder 10.5 million of them, essentially all of world Jewry at the time. He says so in the tapes.
I did not mean to suggest in any way that radical evil is banal - only that very banal, superficial people can commit it, especially through an organization. They can turn the deep-seated, unreasoning prejudices of their societies into what they see as bureaucratic organization and "accomplishing goals," thereby separating and protecting their banal selves from any the unthinkable evil they are committing - in so doing, I agree, becoming evil themselves.
With the vaxxed, I harp on the fact that the shots didn't work. Period. If they don't know I'm not vaxxed, I tell them I'm not getting any boosters or any more shots, that I gave two years of my life to slay the beast and now I'm going to live my life. No more masking, shots etc. I tell them I've amped up my vitamin D and I'll take an "anti-viral" if I get Covid. Sometimes the conversation goes to Ivermectin vs. Paxlovid and I'm encouraged that with some people they "get" that anti-virals work. Sometimes I talk about IVM having better safety data so I'd choose that one. People seem more open to accepting IVM now since that shit Paxlovid is also an "anti-viral." It's a step in the right direction. Some of my vaxxed friends aren't getting any more shots. One admitted he's never felt the same since getting them with joint inflammation. One thing I never do is talk about the injuries and side effects of these shots with the vaxxed. My emphasis is don't get anymore. Their brains sometimes almost explode at the connection between IVM and anti-viral. Just trying to move people along a little bit.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/turtles-all-the-way-down-vaccine-science-myth/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=5e3a265c-3f0d-4f7a-b2b2-e24aab757cb7
I am anti-vax and unashamed of the label.
If I had children, they would be unvaxxed and uncircumcised.
You are wise. All vaxes are entirely unnecessary as viruses don't exist, thus rendering them utterly pointless.
I would encourage you to throw out their demeaning label as words have power and accepting the "Anti" wording implies you have a problem. Are you also an "Anti-drugger" and an "Anti-murderer" and an "Anti-Newser", etc. etc.? See how that works? Aren't we all fundamentally "Anti" the things that cause us harm? But we would never accept such ludicrous labels. They are attempting to smear us with such pitiful rhetoric. Take back control.
You're a "Pro-Truther" and they're "Anti-Truthers". That puts the universe back into balance and re-establishes sanity.
Yes, the label is demeaning. I just say, "I am vaccine horrified after reading the science". (Not "anti" anything.)
Bravo!
Ahhhhhh
Love that
I often quote the saying that all "anti-vaxxers" are really "ex-vaxxers."
I like the term ex-vaxxer. I’m not even going to vax my cats in future, from what I’ve seen in past 2 years.
Me neither! Always tried to "get away" with little to no vaccines for our pets - I treated all our horses, dogs, cats, geese and chickens the same as our sons - with herbs and propolis.
But now? I have put veterinarians out of my world along with NPR and many of my old friends (though I think that might have been their choice). I've never had TV or a cell phone or been to an allopath........life is good.
My one cat who we did not vaccinate (he was allergic) lived to 22.5 years. The others (vaxxed) got diabetes, kidney failure, cancer.
Wow. I keep reading stories like yours in the comments from different substacks - from horse and dog breeders, pet owners etc. Our beloved mongrel stray dog - who escaped his sheepherder captors - could run like the wind, and was always so happy and healthy until, not thinking, I let a vet give him multiple "mandatory for travel" vaccines all at one time. After that he would have seizures when running along side of us bike riding or hiking. He lived long, completed his task of raising our four sons, and died at 18, but I know he would have lived well into his 20s without the poisonous injections. We've seen friend's purebreds die horrible deaths immediately after multiple vaccinations several times! WTF.
A major problem is, many people when going away, need to place their pets in temporary boarding.. and most of them insist that pets are vaccinated. Once again.. it’s a lovely multi-billion dollar big-pharma scam at the expense of our pets lives. And just like children, they have absolutely no say in it.
Like!
Excellent observations.
Thank you.
Great point
Well said-thanks
Circumcision is male genital mutilation, but Western culture refuses to accept it as such.
Easy now, that really gets the normies worked up. LOL
That's your atheist biased rant.
In God's eyes, it signifies purity of one's body to God and a reminder of the rite of sanctification of one's spirit and soul.
Find Jesus before its to late to save yourself.
You (incorrectly) assume I am an Atheist and your spiel is a classic example of being brainwashed. You sound just like a Muslim. I have found Yeshua to be something completely different from what you have. If you are intellectually honest and not brainwashed you should watch this whole video. https://youtu.be/wIerrc6DFP8
Screw Jesus and Yaweh too. And the pedophie prophet and Allah.
Don't push your superstitions on me.
I am also a proud anti-vaxxer, and in my case, that is because I paid close attention in immunology, physiology, microbiology and virology courses in medical school and can see that a person no more needs a vaccine than deltoid piercing jewelry that leaks neurotoxins with antigenic wastewater.
viruses, yes - suprise, suprise, do exist.
however, that does not mean vaxx work ...
connecting vaxx effectiveness to existence of virus is a very sinister argument ... these have nothing to do with each other.
it is aimed for unvaxxed to put them on the wrong path, so when they get sick (which inevitable they will), they will doubt the other side of the argument that vaxx might work after all
Oh they do, do they? Funny how nobody has ever been able to find a unicorn virus in the real world. They can only pretend to invent them via their deceptive monkey kidney culturing process or their human RNA fragment assembling process. Lots of "fake viruses" can be manufactured but none can actually be found in REALITY. How interesting.
Here's a video should you care to learn about the pseudoscience known as "virology". I'd recommend you invest your time should you be interested in no longer being fooled -> https://www.bitchute.com/video/jajyAdPMdzfJ/
Interesting video. Have just watched it.
I believe in viruses because I believe in Hepatitis C.
I taught in the Bronx (NYC) for many years.
Despite having been warned to wear gloves if exposed to the blood of my students, I never did.
The Bronx has extremely high rates of many diseases: AIDS, tuberculosis, asthma, diabetes, and Hepatitis C. I was exposed to TB and, although I never caught it, antibodies for TB exist in my body and TB tests I take are always positive. TB is a disease caused by bacteria.
And I had Hepatitis C for about 20 years. Harvoni produced by Gilead cured it, but the disease has left me with liver and esophageal damage.
https://www.drugs.com/harvoni.html
Perhaps, viral theory will turn out to be incorrect. But right now, if you're bitten by a dog, get rabies shots so you don't die. And if you get Hep C, ask about Harvoni.
Duesberg and Mullis don't believe that the HIV virus causes AIDS and I agree with them. However, to my knowledge, neither has denied the existence of viruses.
there is something going around. andrew kaufman cant deny it. there are billions people sick from biden etc. i was too for a couple of weeks. this is contagious.
however, instead of debating what it is and where it came from, lets learn about Spike Protein which is contained in trillions in so-called vaxx.
Spike Protein is the real threat and it is being shed from the vaxxed to unvaxxed. to say there is nothing to worry about is a mistake.
https://www.technocracy.news/dr-meryl-nass-debunks-sars-cov-2-virus-isnt-real-never-been-isolated-myths/
I'll tell ya what's going around -> Light. Light that is exposing the repressed, stored traumas and conflicts that are held in our bodies (aka "darkness"). Said traumas are being released from the bodies of those who are not STILL/QUIET enough in their daily lives, don't sleep well, and haven't done any inner-work. The light is FORCING the traumas out. This is "Covid".
Colds and flus result from dissatisfaction/disappointment and worry/fear -> "stink conflicts". Your body is protecting you from your figurative fear/worry/unhappiness that you say "stinks" (like, "my family member is sick and this stinks and I'm afraid I'll breathe in an imaginary bug"). Your psyche translates this thought literally and attempts to protect you from blocking your nasal, bronchial and lung passages to protect you from the STINK.
okay, tell that to doctors at white house and billions out there.
Yeah, almost nobody is ready to hear it, least of all our "trusted" institutional leaders. It destroys "victim consciousness", which has been carefully crafted for centuries that they will fight to uphold at all costs. This is what gives THEM power over the ignorant masses.
We've been lied to about everything that gives THEM an advantage over us that we can't easily verify for ourselves. The cause of diseases, not just fake "infectious diseases", like cancer, heart disease, auto-immune disease, degenerative disease, etc. etc. follows the same pattern. Different albeit very specific unresolved psychological conflicts lead to them all. Fear and judgment are at the root.
You're in charge pandelis, and you underestimate the power of your own thoughts to a degree not yet imaginable. This is what "THEY" don't want you to know. Because when you figure it out, THEY will no longer be able to control you. It's this simple.
I suspect germ theory is basically correct and that viruses exist, although I've read some convincing arguments by Janine Roberts and Leon Scheff that they do not. I agree that it's bad strategy to link the two arguments.
it is done on purpose to divert the discussion from spike protein which is the real killer. you might want to follow this guy ... really good research.
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/the-spike-protein-as-human-systemic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Thank you.
An interesting read indeed!
Never thought I would be discussing male circumcision tonight Eddy! Based on my personal family observations and customs; 3 grandsons, one, the oldest circumcised, born in 1995. The second two not circumcised and both born after 2006. I think culturally in North America the practice will die out. To be honest being born in 1950 to be circumcised or not wasn't a big issue.
My father was uncircumcised and was born in 1925. My first husband born in 1950 was inadvertently circumcised because at age 13 he was wrestling with his brothers and somehow managed to split his foreskin. He had an emergency circumcision. My second husband isn't circumcised and was born in 1940. So it's a mixed bag.
However years later I became aware of the practice of female circumcision in other countries. Again, another cultural and in some cases a religious belief that made these practices acceptable. To me as a female this is the greater tragedy.
Unlike male circumcision, female circumcision destroys the pleasure centre. I guess the intent is she won't wander, looking for satisfaction elsewhere. Why would she? There's nothing there.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about something other than covid.
As always I look forward to your comments.
I posit that it does decrease the pleasure for men, their only physical pleasure is the ejaculation.
Bingo.
See my post below on Maimonides.
Read the Bible to get educated as to the custom and its significance.
I use bibles for toilet paper.
They contain second rate, derivative mythology.
Ovid and Homer are much more entertaining and although Athena probably doesn't exist either, she's much more interesting than the Virgin Mary.
Or read my post above.
Why bother?
You're just one more tedious bible thumper.
While I agree with you in principle, based on my husband's experience doing it at an older age rather than newly born seemed to be a lot more painful.
As an aside. It was all the rage to yank out tonsils during the later part of my childhood. I had mine removed at age 13 and was in agony after. My younger brother and sister had theirs removed when they were 5 or 6 and didn't share the same horrific experience that I had. Today, we no longer yank out tonsils and I believe that we will no longer continue to remove foreskins. But I'm still worried and concerned about the girls in third world countries that are still being forced to undergo these rituals.
Tradition and indoctrination.
Bingo, Eddy.
Also a hatred of sex (and women), which was eventually picked up by Paul of Tarsus and became a characteristic of Christianity. Maimonides made it this explicit in the 12th century:
"Maimonides (Moses ben Maimon "Rambam", CE 1135–1204), who apart from being a great Torah scholar was also a physician and philosopher, argued that circumcision serves as a common bodily sign to members of the same faith. He also asserted that the main purpose of the act is to repress sexual pleasure, with the strongest reason being that it is difficult for a woman to separate from an uncircumcised man with whom she has had sex."
Interesting! Yet, the Christians and Jews hate on the other Abrahamic 'religion' and their circumcision practices; then they get really mad when I say this.
I agree with you, Raven
Hate seems to go with religion..
From my observations as an ESL teacher who has taught people from all over the world, the Christians are the biggest haters, Jews and Muslims slightly less likely to literally demonize those who reject their gods.
Circumcision on women in Africa is even more barbaric than the male circumcision practiced by (mostly but not exclusively) the Jews.
This message is as terrifying as it is simple and compelling. The difficult challenge is how do we overcome this dissonance in our friends and family who made this decision?
The other effect of this is to create division. In Marx’s writings, it was the proletariat & the bourgeoisie, in CRT division is by race, and now they’ve created a division that is more psychologically nuanced, because it is rooted in decisions we have made which have serious implications that stir strong emotions - a master stroke for the propagandists.
I think they did not account adequately for the power of truth, which once known, will overcome.
I Ching states the Power of Inner Truth prevails. Friends family lead from behind, or in front do not confront creates more resistance...just go your way and they either wake or not wake....you can not change any of them. My sisters brother and friends all got shots I have let them go....my brother thinks he got covid again..i tell him he got vaxx shedding from GF or reinfected. Simple leave at that.
Move on ...
Absolutely. Your message is perfect.
We can hope your last sentence comes to fruition. I see the essence of this article playing out right in front of me. Almost a year ago I realized that discussing the topic with someone who is vaxxed would almost certainly cause them significant fear even if they didn't believe a word I said, which in and of itself, can cause many problems, including death.
I don't see an easy path forward. The damage has been done. They need to be left with something hopeful/positive or else I believe a discussion can only cause them more harm.
I wish I saw another way but at this, I don't.
Disagree. See my post below. I watched a symposium on Zoom yesterday with a group of 12 doctors from around the world who are treating the vaccine injured and finding some success. A compassionate culture is springing up as a natural reaction to our plight and people are finding courage—even in the medical community. This must be the path forward. We must help the vaxed to find the tools to heal. We are better together.
This is promising and this is what I'm looking for to re-engage. Thanks for sharing, I'll check it out!
Great to hear this. Yes, the vaccinated need to know they can be helped and that we are on their side. We need to stick together. Together, we will get through it.
You just hit the nail on the head for me. Thankyou. I couldn't have expressed it better. That's exactly how I feel.
Today, my cheeky almost 16 year old grandson texted me a bunch of self made memes mocking everything I believe in regarding covid. He believes I am crazy regarding my views on covid.
I could respond and send him terrible articles about the side effects of these shots. He's had 2 so far.
But I can't. Imagine telling him what I believe is the truth. It could destroy him.
This is in my opinion a horrible place to be. He is just one of many in my family that took the shots. I tried to warn them all before they succumbed but to no avail.
I have no idea at this point how to deal, react or cope with this situation with regards to my beloved family. I feel like a helpless standbyer watching a car crash in motion, knowing there is nothing I can do.
If he is to get treatment, then he has to know that he is in grave danger. As a first step he must never get another Covid injection.
I feel your pain and discouragement Helen. I'm holding out hope that there is a viable way to unwind the damaging effects, but thus far, nothing certain is forthcoming. What I do know for sure is that FEAR can be deadly. And that's the last thing I want those I love to feel. So mum's the word for now. But let's stay hopeful and positive!
Please watch this symposium where doctors from around the world discuss how they are helping the vaxed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJvNGSH1G4
Indeed it is. I think all of us have family that made that choice. Positivity goes much farther than we presently realize. Keep up the good work!
As long as the two of you live in separate houses you should be okay.
I never talked about COVID. I've only said, "Hope you feel better" to people who would start talking about it. Never allowed them to go on and on with describing their symptoms, etc. or their vaccinations or their relative's symptoms. Certainly never discussed my health in any way, shape, or form, not in the past 2 years, not ever.
People need to stop discussing their medical history so openly. Keep it private.
Agreed, there are certainly an endless list of additional topics for pink-pilling the sleepers...
I really don't give a hoot about overcoming dissonance in friends and family who made the decisions they made.
Get out of victim mentality. Stop allowing yourself to get bogged down with these "challenges" and what THEY have wanted to do.
Just keep moving forward with the truth, thank you.
Great comment. I was just about to shut this thread off. Absolutely agree. Get out of the victim mentality.
We the ones, who didn't drink the Kool aid really don't have time to develop support groups etc. for their misguided plight. The bigger battle is still there. Don't get side tracked with self virtuous platitudes and actions for the great misinformed. If we get bogged down in that now all is lost. We can help them later. But only if we win.
I think we need them to win. We need to win them over to our side. I think empathy will help to do that.
Fair encouragement to keep on keeping on and rely on the truth. I still want to get through to people I love. So I will keep pressing in with them too. Not a victim, just not giving up on them.
I'm not giving up on them either when it comes to my family but honestly if you have any tips on how to do this without severe ramifications, which I have experienced in the past , I would love to know what's working for you. I walk in a minefield everytime I try to bring up anything related to covid. with every vaccinated person I know.
Every time I said that we are wasting our time trying to get these people to see the truth I was told I should be more optimistic and not give up on them. Throughout my life, I have tried very hard to help people in their careers (I steer clear of giving advice about their personal lives - too many landmines), but I always was quick to give up on people who obviously did not also want to help themselves. Not worth my time; there were many others to help who genuinely wanted to improve their lives.
I don't even try to help the vaccinated or pro-vaxx people I know; they will never see (let alone listen to) the truth. I concentrate on building and strengthening relationships that I know will be productive, especially in the difficult times that lie ahead.
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We cannot overcome the dissonance. We have to let it go. We've been trying since March 2020 and the great news that HCQ could be a preventative...
What we have to do is let them go, and claw back our country if we can from the globalists.
Us unvaxxed have to do it. How, I do not know, although I have some ideas.
As the to vaxxed...let them come to it in their own time, if they can. Some will, some will not.
I think above all we have to disband or takeover the six major media conglomerates. Vote red wave in November. Put the breakup of the MSM at the top of the list. Once we can put on what the truth is (and Trump could help us do a country wide citizen class action buyout of the MSM to make up for his blindness)we can change the narrative, and wake the rest of the people up. Without that, he don't have a chance.n This is war. We need to do this pronto.
What say you?
I pray you’re right.
OMG, I think you are on track. Neil Oliver’s last monologue fits right in here. https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/it-is-hard-to-tell-yourself-youve-been-taken-for-a-fool-but-open-your-eyes-says-neil-oliver/352031
Neil Oliver's voice is one of the wisest and most eloquent.
As Scotland is handed on a plate to the globalists by the SNP (what an Orwellian joke their name is, when they should be called the Scottish Post-Modern Party) with its children being indoctrinated, jabbed and groomed, Neil is a great antidote to the execrable Queen Nicola. He seems to have a very helpful postman, who gets lots of letters just addressed to Neil Oliver, Stirling, and even Neil Oliver, King of Scotland, Stirling! I hope they don't manage to neutralise him.
I think that's an astute possible scenario. The timing must be perfect and everything will come to the boiling point. When the peasants start to revolt the next stage of containment and mandates will make the covid Era look like a walk in the park.
There is a perfect storm of events on the horizon, and putting them in place while the population was distracted by covid, was the perfect and brilliant cover.
In some ways we've gone from the war on terror to the war on pandemics.
And while, historically the peasants have revolted in the past, this time the oppressors have the advantage with Technology.
I'm 72 years old and at this point I fail to see a positive outcome during my lifetime.
And while I can say that I am responsible and grateful for two generations to leave behind upon my inevitable demise, at this point not one of them is aware or concerned about the inevitable tsunami that will surely breach the shores of humanity.
Think of containment and mandates like The Hunger Games. Way worse than covid and with it a very compliant population; based on the reactions of the masses to Covid. I think the non stop Covid Ops has taken the fight and spirit out of the majority of the population.
Obviously you and I don't feel like that or we wouldn't be on these substacks but reality is we are a minority.
And it seems the wake up is inevitable too.
I believe the Mar-a-Lago raid was to distract us from the weaponization of the IRS.
That too.
You are so right.
No, it will lead to anger. So I think we have to take over the means of communication...and we will get pushback from the Administrative state. But if all of us contribute to a buy out/break up group. and make this our newly elected congress'es main thrust BEFORE anything else (I.e. fund the anti trust arm and mandate (YUP THAT WORD) that they sell off their MSM channels and we are lined up to buy it out over any globalist (including Blackrock vanguard and SS)
then we have a fighting chance to take these people who have believed every lie, and change them into constitutional freedome fighters. THAT is the chink in their armor. That we MUST do.
Once again after reading this post I agree with you. As you said; Red/ Blue doesn't matter. It's the same in Canada. Controlled opposition. A wonderful distraction for the masses. And given their success with covid it seems to be working very well.
The Ukraine/ Russian current conflict is another wonderful fabricated diversion.
War is and has always been profitable for the select few. Raytheon must be laughing all the way to the bank. And as for Blackrock, they have an operating capital bigger than most if not all countries.
Speaking as someone who voted for Trump twice, I'm sick of how so many keep looking to him and his "white hats" as our hope. This may lead to millions of unnecessary deaths--not hyperbole--because it keeps them from taking steps to secure a local food supply or means of protecting our communities and families. Just sit around snorting the drug of Hopium. Trust the plan. The Great Orange Hope.
Should be obvious by now that Trump was always one of the swamp creatures. The only 4D chess he played was with those who supported him. Hopium and Trump shots.
“They” are gonna starve us just as badly as the Russkies hydrogen-bombed us in the late 70s.
Have decided to be authentic with everyone. Of course, still out of a job due to jab. Noticing people turn away from me. It's tough but so am I. I feel the zombies can sense the vibe, or whatever word you want to use. We are like the cross to the vampires
Kelliann, you are not alone. And I got a job! I do live in the south so it has been easier, though my zoom class new job is based in NYC. Keep trying and stay authentic.
I'm sorry you're out of a job. Hope you find something soon, something you like. There are definitely non-jab jobs out there!
On point! I've seen this in action in others and also in myself. I am NOT vaccinated and have had covid 19, and possibly (I never got tested), the lesser variant about two months ago. But I see this mind-game in myself, as many friends and family members have been vaccinated and I cannot conceive of their lifetimes having been reduced by the vaccine. And... neither can they. So it is a big evil no-go swamp of a discussion topic. I recently met a couple at a concert. She was a nurse at the same hospital I went to and was diagnosed as hiving covid 19, in July 2020. This gal and I really hit it off about the music and the venue (I'm 74, she about 34, and her hubby was with her... this was not sexual, just friendly). We were yakking it up, the husband occasionally joining in, very friendly and warm, and then the subject of covid came up and I told her how I was 'refused' treatment (HCQ) and simply 'sent home' to live or die. (They told me that if my lips turned blue or black, to get myself to the emergency ward ASAP. That was it.) Well, once I brought that up I could see the veils on her eyes descend. The conversation began to shut down. I would say that even at this late stage, 90% of people WILL NOT believe such a thing was done to us. AND, if and when they find out, they will, I believe, literally, tear the doctors and employers who forced them to take the shot... to shreds. But the 'if' is a big one. We are still not there. Just not there yet.
It’s interesting to watch people shut down, that’s when you know all conversations are over.
If the children start dying, the eyes will be opened, in my opinion.
I doubt it.
I agree we or they not yet...but with each death and strange occurence we draw closer ....in the big Hospitals people are still required to wear mask. I wonder if they are still leaching blood from patients? One must shake their heads about how slow to the Truth people are Fear Doubt are the big enemies here.
I had dinner with a dear vaccinated friend the other night. I tried to explain the EUA situation....that there were no early treatments given because they wouldn't have been able to give out the EUA vax if early treatments did exist. She said well your saying that 1 million people died because they did not receive early treatment? I said yes, many people died because they withheld information about early treatments. First she say well they didn't know back then about those treatments, because they would never have done that. I said, yes, many people knew about the treatments and the information was demonized and withheld. So she said well if what you are saying is true this worse than 9/11. I said I guess it is. She thought for a minute and said, I just can't believe that. It is too terrible.
And I didn't push any further or give her anymore facts because she was so upset.
I had this happen when I told my mom more bullets were recovered at the scene of Bobby Kennedy's assassination than could be held in Sirhan Sirhan's gun, so he couldn't have been the only one who fired. She said "I don't want to think we live in a world like that," with such finality, that was the end of the conversation. I expected skepticism but not an outright denial resting on admitted psychological grounds.
Sometimes this seems like a trail of bread crumbs we leave. You left one for your friend, and hopefully someone else will leave the next one and so on. If we all gently offer the clues, they might be followed eventually.
Dr. Kory testified in front of Congress in either September or November of 2020 (can't remember, I want to say it was November) about ivermectin specifically. The video can be found all over. This is the absolute latest date that anyone can say with a straight face that we didn't know about early treatments.
The maddening thing is that it's so readily available, cheap, and incredibly safe, there was just no reason not to be trying it even with mixed or limited evidence. Well, no benign reason. But then I recently read a comment from a hospital worker over at Steve Kirsch's substack saying their MDs weren't even allowed to give vitamin D to known-deficient patients with covid. Nuremberg 2 can't come soon enough.
Pray. I pray everynight. There should with the Great REset also come the
Great Awakening. Maybe we need to hold rallys...like tent revivals...give the
people a reason to believe there is hope and that our country is based on a
Constitution that needed to not be tampered with and give them a way forward.
MY God, we have enough on these stacks to give them hope...NAC and other
solutions to having taken the jab.. START there...and watch it grow.
This is what must continue. Let her stew in it.
She will come around. Bravo.
Well I worked at 7 WTC and I definitely believe it now. Took me a few years..about 5 to 7 after it happened...I was unwilling to beleive it but then started looking at everything all over again...because of the War in Iraq...and then Libya convinced me...same party differeing uniform, same thing.
This is a bigger false-flag than 9-11. Interestingly enough, many people (in my travels) who see the c-19 false-flag refuse to acknowledge all the previous false-flags.
Polluted food, water, air and fake government and fake money and fake healthcare we tolerate. Many people are able to deny the truth. In old Russia serfs going to the scaffold shouted Long Live the Tsar. Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme due to the little lies we tell ourselves. We are brutalized children even as adults. We prefer the lie. In regards to vaccine deaths my bet is the average soul will buy the lie that no one knew the harm would be greater than the cure. To admit otherwise would probably be so overwhelming psychologically that the nervous breakdown would crush them. After all truth impedes acquisition of material goods and in a largely secular nation money is the Messiah.
So we're fucked, eh?
No Mark. There is always hope. What we need is a plan. I think we need
to attack the beast where he has his biggest weakeness...communication to the vast
majority of sleepers...the Nightly news. Above I am suggesting we get together, form a
conglomerate of all of us peasants who are unvaxxed, and put together 1) insistance that the first thing congress does is put one of us into the anti trust divison and 2) insist that MSM big 6 sell off their nightly news, and 3) buy them out and run them oursleves. The only way.
Mark, you have documented all the deaths, and done a yeoman's work and are still sane..I am not sure I would be had I done what you are doing. You keep doing it, and let us all put our heads together and figure out how we can blast your work to every person in a forum that all will listen to.
What about the vaxxed who identify as unvaxxed?
Fucked so many times over so many years the Covid con worked. The election con worked. The cover up works. The Kingdom of God is not of this world after all and to expect Americans to stop and revise everything taught and told is improbable. November likely has another stolen election. And since two years ago the theft worked I doubt not it will once more. We are clearly in a moment of history where all the lies come home to roost. I do not think Americans can wake up. How many remain masked? Congress capitulates. Courts are corrupt. Arguably the over all result of Covid and denial will kill millions and by then the survivors will face a war with Russia.
Not Russia, China.
See New Lies For Old and the "Clenched Fist" strategy. Russia and China are collaborating in military strategy.
is there no hope?...
would say there is hope however appears we have stewardship issues driven by psychological issues which have created for us critical problems for which we currently lack the know-how to undo/solve...
Secular hope, no. Spiritual hope yes. Berdyaev writes on this in his context of the Russian revolution of 1905 and later. With admirable pith and clarity, Berdiaev lays bare the poverty and the narrowness of thought embedded in the culture of several generations of Russian radicalism, from Belinsky to the Marxists. He discloses a virulent strain of pseudo-religious beliefs, barely concealed under the professions of atheism that united the various factions of that schismatic sect. The prime example of this is the elevation of the moral imperative of social justice as the highest category of truth (pravda), above and beyond the criteria of intellectual integrity associated with truth as veritas. He attributes this root phenomenon to “the orientation of their will,” rather than to a defect in thinking.5
But in his conclusion, Berdiaev mitigates his indictment of the misguided rebels by laying the blame squarely on those who still held the reins of power in Russia and ruled it in the name of a debased version of Christianity. He writes: “The Russian intelligentsia has been what Russian history has made it. The sins of our morbid history, of our historical system of government, and of eternal reaction are reflected in its psychological make–up.”6It is a very self-revealing assessment, showing Berdiaev’s irreducible sympathy for the gesture of human liberation, no matter how flawed. It also raises the question of responsibility for the evils in Russian society from the arena of politics to a meta-historical level.
As Berdyaev saw it, the course of historical Christianity, with its sins of omission and commission, can be traced back to its fall away from Christ and His gift of freedom into the trap of the temporal world. That conversion of freedom into necessity is perennially repeated in the tragic fate of creativity in human culture, which reifies every inspired act into an objective value or, worse still, degrades it into a commodity. Formed in the crucible of his personal experience of Christianity, the tragic sense of life is fundamental to Berdyaev’s philosophical outlook. But unlike for Nietzsche, who shared that sense with him, it is not an aesthetic but a spiritual value. https://isi.org/modern-age/nikolai-berdiaev-and-spiritual-freedom-a-reconsideration/
Probably.
Could just be me, but I find that unhelpful (and untrue).
I wish I could be more optimistic, but I feel it's all over.
Look at yourself, for example, a brilliant, charismatic educator, who has been vilified and excluded from the conversation by MSM.
I agree with Caitlin. The Left I knew—anti war, pro-union, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-sexist, and life affirming, is dead. I already feel the boot on my face.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/08/21/they-demolished-the-left-and-burned-the-blueprint-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/
It is not over as long as we draw breath. I have thought it is over
so many times and will continue to doubt. But I know there is
something about all of us...here...talking, helping, thinking, trying to
figure out a solution....keep on doing this my friends. Something will come
out of this mix...because I have a lot more in common with the people here
than my own family now...and that is something.
Disagree but like to hear it said.
Keep saying it, Duchess.
Even if I deny it's true, your optimism gives me hope.
"Look at yourself, for example, a brilliant, charismatic educator, who has been vilified and excluded from the conversation by MSM."
I consider him to be very fortunate.
How do the propagandist prevent themselves from being fooled? they’re human after all
I do that with the little fishes too...and the horseshoe crabs that cannot get back to the water.
And I was terrified of horseshoe crabs when I was little...now I think they are wonders.
No!
There's an Eeyore on every thread.
Is Eeyore another of your imaginary friends like God and Jesus?
Did you mean “fed”
Lol..that's always a real possibility, as well. It's definitely useless to entertain one because they are on assignment from Smug Fed.
I don't mean to be a total jerk here, but if they had been that badly brutalized as children, they would now totally understand what was actually taking place now. Weary wisdom is one of the few advantages of a truly brutal childhood, if one even survives it. I'm not suggesting that children be further brutalized. Imo, too many have been comfortably coddled into the "acquisition of material goods" tract...is the rub. At many points in almost anyone's life, the choice to reject that tract is always presented, multiple times. And people choose, again and again. I'm not certain we move things too much forward by throwing up our hands at 'fake everything' like we never, ever once were given a choice. But it's a great strategy for holding on to our goodies and avoiding the inevitable slings and arrows of the road less traveled. Damn, without faith?...that's one scary road.
I think otherwise about brutality. . Spiritually speaking we are brutalized but do not recognize it and call it normal. We compare normalcy to the criminal treatment some have at the hands of their parents. We have I think to recognize the social order erected by nominally free people is brutal.
As a formerly severely brutalized child that knew exactly what was going on, all I can say to that is "boo who." There is still a lot of good to work within that "brutal" everyday "normalcy" though. Saved and elevated my life within the confines of your brutal social order. What's in it for you not to recognize the good and to overprivilage it's flaws?
The good. Interesting. Well again you may take umbrage with brutalized but a health care system that relies on insurance money is quite documented in regards to over treatment, under treatment, the wrong treatment and outright murder as a norm. Ivan Illich’s attack on modern medicine, Medical Nemesis, appeared in 1974. The book famously opened with the statement: ‘The medical establishment has become a major threat to health.’ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1732343/pdf/v057p00919.pdf
Yes, growing up around bullies definitely clues you in to the intent of others. Survival is hard work, especially for a kid who has to figure things out quickly and without much guidance.
I’d be interested in finding out about who the Resisters are and how they became that way. As the Bible says, iron sharpens iron.
I think a factor is if the child is healed or not. Without healing, which requires another caring person, the damaged adult will be in a state of denial as Mark describes, and they will find a way to hurt other people, and there is a long tradition of these people joining the medical field.
And drought.
Quite true.
Informed consent is the crux of the matter. It was never possible to give it, and without it there is a crime committed. It’s just that simple.
Holocaust Survivor Vera Sharav Speech at Nuremberg 75
“Never Again” is Now
https://rumble.com/v1gtl0n-vera-sharav-speech-at-nuremberg-75.html?
and they never gave informed consent or package inserts or cons to vaxxine...selling kool aid to kids ...Never Again Human Nature repeats itself Ego is consistent in human behavior. The Crime IS
NO Informed Consent they lined up people in the cars like cattle and gave out shots.
Pray for California today ALERT, ALERT, ALERT!
SB 866 is set to voted on today in Assembly.
August 25, 2022 This bill cuts parents out of medical decisions for their children leaving it open for more of the same coercion and bullying.
F in hate CA. Could not get out fast enough. How do people stay there and support this insanity. Are there really parents there who want the government to decide on their childrens medical treatments! I’m in shock! Honestly I can’t believe parents aren’t screaming and marching in the streets to stop this!! Are they all zombies??
Yes, I believe they are. Lots of zombies out there, everywhere
Not a zombie. Several reasons we are still here:
Family.
Where we earn our income (the Franchise Tax Board emulates the USSR in ensuring even if we leave we still have to pay The State. A minimum of 13 conditions c. 2014, to avoid this fate.).
Best place to grow food when the famine hits - our specific location is relatively bug-free and perfect for year-around cultivation.
Constant questions: where will we be least/most vulnerable/free; what state(s) are least/most vulnerable to the same fate as CA.
Cost of changing domicile - we are full-time RVrs, there are only 2 states that we could domicile in ‘problem-free’... we both have Medicare which eliminates health insurance as a problem...gas required to check out possibilities and begin establishing new community so we can become citizens of another state ($3000 to travel 1500 miles, missed a family reunion; and the attendant discomfort due to topic of post+many comments).
That’s a partial list.
Not a reason for us to stay, but for some it is: “stay and fight”.
Every day brings fresh reasons to leave.
I ask every day for Higher Intelligence to infuse my thoughts with inspiration for the right action(s).
My niece is there and yes, she is a zombie lol
Parents need to home school and never allow their children to be alone with any "professional." Halt all health care visits except for acute illness.
I am an atheist but will pray anyway.
“Tout est possible, même Dieu.” (Ernest Renan.)
Great quote!
But why just one?
I've always liked Athena and Aphrodite.
And Isis is interesting too.
I like all those, too. Some folks need a one goddess path. It comes from the heart.
Sekhmet is another of my favorites.
PS Don't anybody bother to reply to me about other religions, books, saviours. That ship has sailed long long ago.
I read a book long ago by Larry Dossey called Healing Words about intercessory prayer, in which he presents evidence on effects from prayer. The prayer that seemed to have the most salutory effects was "may the best possible outcome prevail" so I pray this, despite being utterly allergic to organized religious dogma, on my exercycle while listening to mindless music from the fifties (I would refuse to live in a cosmos, should there be an ultimate ground of being that listens, that couldn't get behind Build Me Up Buttercup). Maybe there are consciousnesses beyond our chimp brains that listen, maybe there's a quantum biological field that our concerted attention can move, and maybe it is just like the Niels Bohr horseshoe story: he had a horseshoe on his barn, and someone asked him why a physicist like himself would have such a superstitious luck talisman on his barn, and he said "they say it works whether you believe it or not" ! I think if we all pray, who knows?
"May the best possible outcome prevail" is great.
I add something about "for the good of all".
Just keep it simple.
Prayer is amazing. And I've never belonged to a religion. And I love that you quoted Niels Bohr. That's my name - Bohr. (My father always called him "Uncle" but we don't know much about my father's lineage.)
You think Pan or anyone in his own family actually gets the jabs? The jabs are for the rabble.
All the moms who have known for DECADES that vaccines injured their children- with the American academy of pediatrics schedule … and they were silenced
Now know the government has ALWAYS known
This wasn’t a matter of educating anyone
They’re all aware
And complicit
And have been ….for decades!!!
This NOT new.
This is just more of what they have already gotten away with!!!
RFK Jr. has said he was hounded by a mom to look into the vaccine safety issue. He resisted for quite a long time, but she persisted. And look what her persistance has accomplished! She won him over, because truth was on her side.
They are just as trapped by their inability to understand the reality of the world they live in.
Imo, it's not that they don't have the ability to understand reality, they are trapped by their own selective consciousness (dare say "egos"). We are all getting a huge, overdue lesson from the universe on this one. I do believe this is "biblical."
"I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder."
—Werner Herzog
"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, or any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. As that unhappy poet A E Housman put it:
'For Nature, heartless, witless Nature
Will neither know nor care.' "
—From the book, RIVER OUT OF EDEN, by Richard Dawkins.
Dawkins is, quite frankly, an utter moron.
When there's no good counterargument, one can always resort to ad hominem.
God is the answer..
What is the question?
And without faith, one inevitably resorts to nihilism.
Silly and untrue.
Sorry I'm a dummy, please explain.
I'm not calling you names.
But I'd like you to read Dawkin's book and, if possible, refute it.
That would be better than calling him a moron.
HA HA I was writing same about Werner!
— If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.
(Thomas Pynchon)
—I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony; but chaos, hostility and murder.”
(Werner Herzog)
Evil: morally reprehensible: sinful, wicked
(Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
The two rhinoceroses at the party to which no one in the theodicy debate has paid attention are the connotation (and denotation) of the word “evil” and the presumption that the presence of what is called “evil” by Christians and other delusional or misinformed souls is an anomaly.
There’s a 1947 short film called Les Assassins de l’Eau Douce (Assassins of Fresh Water). It lasts 27 minutes during which micro-photographed fresh water animals are shown “killing and imbibing one another by every sort of biting, stabbing, stinging, sucking, and ingesting process that the endless ingenuity of Mother Nature has evolved.” (1)
The movie is a microcosm of the universe. From the smallest organisms to vast galaxies, violence is the common denominator, as Herzog correctly observes.
The vast Andromeda galaxy, next to ours, has a violent past that will culminate in it eating our Milky Way, astronomers say. The galaxy's powerful past has seen it eat several smaller galaxies just as it will go on to swallow ours, researchers say.
In the very short time that humans have evolved and attempted to live together, they have tried to limit and control this violence within the tribe and eventually among tribes. They have developed systems of rules and laws-- principles of conduct governing an individual or a group that would become eventually morph into systems of ethics or moral codes after the evolution of religions.
Once gods entered the picture, certain activities were not only unlawful because they threatened the fabric of the social unit, but “evil” or “sinful” because shamans and charlatans informed their flocks that certain actions were offensive to the gods.
The theodicy debate is getting into a fight with a tar- baby. Existentialists, secularists, reductive materialists or whatever the hell we call ourselves(2), will end up stuck and covered with muck. Evil is a Christian word and a Christian concept. The universe we inhabit has never been an Edenic paradise free of “chaos, hostility and murder”.
The problem of evil is a subterfuge. It is answering the wrong question. It’s a waste of time. Evil, like the gods, does not exist: it’s as real as pregnant virgins, walking cadavers, and transubstantiation.
Love and harmony are not the guiding principles of the universe.
Get over it.
1 Raymond Durgnat, Luis Bunuel, (Berkeley and Los Angeles California, University of California Press, 1977) p.94 “
2 “Atheist” is not acceptable. How can one be without something that doesn’t exist?
Yes it is and they know that now. Hence the semi-repentace. Let me tell them that semi-repentace is not good enough. I want to see confessions that cannot be mistaken.
No. Confessions so that they can be prosecuted out of their own mouths.
Creationists never evolved by definition. I never evolved and neither did you.
I recently read some of the testimonies of the Nuremberg doctors. A lot of them went all the way to the gallows insisting, that given their individual circumstances, that they had no other choice than to do the things that they had done.
More fool them then.
The bible is mythology.
Evolution is supported by fossils, triangulation, and DNA evidence.
We share almost 100% of our DNA with chimpanzees and 60% with fruit flies.
Oh dear. A four year old can raise good points against Genesis. That doesn't mean they are correct.
Or trapped by Bronze Age superstition.
If I created you and reality yesterday would you know it? That is your problem. You will never permit reality to intervene in your fantasy.
When one pares down the Christian theme to "God sacrifices himself to himself" (a supposed improvement on demanding sacrifices from all), charges of atheistic nihilism and solipsism are a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
But there's clearly something about Sacrifice that humans resonate with. The entire covid horror is a Symphony in the key of human sacrifice: sacrifice your job, sacrifice your health, sacrifice your kids' health, sacrifice simple human pleasures like family holidays or nights out. And none of this is by mistake. There are real demons demanding these sacrifices, they are well aware of what they are demanding, and their hunger for your pain and your destruction is bottomless.
Interesting comment, Lidia.
My question would be "Is Christianity the result or the cause of this resonance?"
I think it's a result. Jews are quite keen on ritual sacrifices and scapegoating, the Aztecs would do their ripping out of beating hearts.. it's a repeating theme in human culture.
That's why—in our now-more-secular world—it's a piece of cake for the behavioral scientists and marketeers employed in the covid bloodbath to tap into that vein of spasmodic self-destructive energy.
Thoughtful and thought-provoking.
Thanks.
Not when one is correct and one is wrong. The only way that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely is the situation where God believes in God and where is the "sacrifice" you talk of in the resurrection? The only way anything can exist in this conceptual multiverse is if God believes in God to make it self-consistent. Bootstrapping. As the "creator" in "Blade Runner" said about providing a cushion for their minds .... https://youtu.be/yWPyRSURYFQ you would never know that it wasn't real, that it was a cushion for your mind nothing more.
This is obscurantist gobbledygook.
Fantasy? How about the fantasy of Christianity? —The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Wait! Don't forget the Virgin Birth!!!
I realized that aspect too, while first working on writing up Todd Callender’s interview about the 2005 WHO International Health Regulations:
“The goals and actions of the individual humans working on the global Covid-19 democide project are so brazenly and profoundly evil that good human minds shut down the instant they confront the information. We recoil instinctively — emotionally, cognitively and spiritually — from the extraordinary saturation of evil; we struggle to grasp how it can be so comprehensive in its scope and destructive in its force.
The human perpetrators and their Satanic accomplices have instituted many layers of legal and media control and distortion of information to demoralize and confuse their victims.
But our natural recoiling phenomenon, our fingertip-on-a-hot-stove natural human withdrawal from evil, provides them with powerful additional camouflage for the evil acts, because the mind of the observer will self-add the camouflage of "this is so evil, it can't possibly be true" adding to the layers of legal and media propaganda cover the perpetrators control and impose themselves.”
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/legal-walls-of-the-covid-19-kill?s=w
I admire that woman so much. She really has done great work revealing the underlying laws that were passed while we were sleeping....Senator Malcolm Roberts spoke out today saying "We understand what you did and how you do it (paraphrasing) and we will hunt you down.
Yeah, 2005 definitely explains what I experienced in 2006-07.
Fantastic article - thank you!
On the flip side, I don’t think this operation went nearly as well as they hoped and planned. They claim they got over 70% to take one shot but less people took the 2nd, only 50% took the first booster and 30% took a 2nd booster (their numbers). The Expose revealed per UK data they likely had similar results on the initial uptake although they claim it was much higher. Hardly anyone took their 5 and under to get jabbed in the US. I don’t know if people are going to admit they got duped but their behavior seems to suggest they aren’t onboard. I don’t think the CDC, Fauci, Wen etc. and the media would all be rushing to attempt to re-write history and changing their position if they were winning this.
Well, it remains to be seen how "well" they've done. If they wanted a significant reduction in the global population, they sure got that, as the overall numbers have been crashing worldwide; and don't forget how many died of lockdowns, etc.
Will we ever know the real numbers? I don't know and I don't think so, but what I do know is they did not get rid enough of the control group. They are what is left to face the truth.
Oh, you can just bet that the psychopathic cabal has a whole other tract in mind for the "resistors."
On the other hand, we might be overestimating their strategic abilities and their ability to control us.
A black swan event...like a volcano going off becaues we are in a solar minimum and it is much more likely...might make people realize IT is stupid to want to dim the sun or cool the earth....and that these idiots are STUPID.
Everyone of us must face our demons inside first. Then we can accept the outer demons.
What has preceded this is the notion of there being no God. Then No God. Then No evil. Lucifer’s best trick. No evil. Not recognizing that evil is well and has seduced 5 biillion people into getting a vaxxine that is not a vaxxine that is lethal.
I am anti vaxx too for 27 years ......and call me whatever you like ....i worked for Big pharma. And woke up during my 7 years while selling chemotherapy. We all wake up or die oblivious Waking up is a punch in the gut. But face your demons and burst your illusions its worth the strange journey after you begin to really radar evil asap.
Wow. Would love to read more about that punch-in-the-gut moment.
Glad you got out!
At the time I was selling chemotherapy, which I thought was cutting edge medicine. That was the real gut lunch, realizing that for all our medical expertise and sophistication it was a big lie.
Holy cow this conversation started a year ago lol. Hope alls well in your heart.
I noticed that, too! Thanks for responding after all this time. Take care!
Sorry it took so long!! Someone commented on this today. Your welcome.
Take care too!
My gut punch came by recognizing that Homeopathy was healing on an energetic level. Most everything we do in modern medicine is done by dosing medicines that are thought to do the healing.
In simplest terms mzlizzi
AGREE 100%
Lol Duchess
I'm about 30 pages from finishing Arendt's The Origins of Totalitarianism, and here it is - the incomprehensibility of (and therefore inability to see) "radical evil."
Tell me more...is that it? Because I am convinced it is not their ability to comprehend, but their inability to accept it..??? or is that the same thing?
I guess if comprehend is used in the fullest sense, not just to understand intellectually but to be able to even grasp the impact, the fact, then, yes, is may be very nearly the same thing.
"it may be"
Arendt had a difficult time seeing radical evil, too. She fell for Eichmann's lies at his trial in Jerusalem.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-08-20/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/can-evil-ever-be-banal-revisiting-hannah-arendts-great-mistake/00000182-b795-d018-adae-bf9fcea70000
That could very well be - and I haven't read the article you attached yet. But if you're talking about the banality of evil, what is the origin of radical evil? It doesn't necessarily arise from original thinking - Dr. Evil. And you don't get a pass for being commonplace but thinking beyond thinkable limits. Sorry, I'm just formulating thoughts here. I guess I'll go finish the book and read the article.
I don't think evil is ever banal!
Hannah Arendt's book about Eichmann's trial is called Eichmann In Jerusalem: A Report On the Banality of Evil. Her book angered many people because of her characterization of Eichmann as a dull bureaucrat who was just following orders. Eichmann lied during his trial to make it seem as though that were the reality. Arendt fell for his lies. Not everyone did!
We now have hard evidence that he was lying, via voice recordings that have come to light in which he speaks to another Nazi (after the war) about his feelings toward the Jews and what he was trying to accomplish. His goal was to murder 10.5 million of them, essentially all of world Jewry at the time. He says so in the tapes.
Here's the link to that article:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-05-23/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/eichmann-in-his-own-words-bring-in-the-idiots-and-throw-inside-hydrogen-cyanide/00000180-f6ca-d469-a5b4-f6fb96ff0000
If these articles are inaccessible (due to being behind a paywall) email me: annettecohen (at) proton.me, and I'll email you copies I made of them.
I did not mean to suggest in any way that radical evil is banal - only that very banal, superficial people can commit it, especially through an organization. They can turn the deep-seated, unreasoning prejudices of their societies into what they see as bureaucratic organization and "accomplishing goals," thereby separating and protecting their banal selves from any the unthinkable evil they are committing - in so doing, I agree, becoming evil themselves.
With the vaxxed, I harp on the fact that the shots didn't work. Period. If they don't know I'm not vaxxed, I tell them I'm not getting any boosters or any more shots, that I gave two years of my life to slay the beast and now I'm going to live my life. No more masking, shots etc. I tell them I've amped up my vitamin D and I'll take an "anti-viral" if I get Covid. Sometimes the conversation goes to Ivermectin vs. Paxlovid and I'm encouraged that with some people they "get" that anti-virals work. Sometimes I talk about IVM having better safety data so I'd choose that one. People seem more open to accepting IVM now since that shit Paxlovid is also an "anti-viral." It's a step in the right direction. Some of my vaxxed friends aren't getting any more shots. One admitted he's never felt the same since getting them with joint inflammation. One thing I never do is talk about the injuries and side effects of these shots with the vaxxed. My emphasis is don't get anymore. Their brains sometimes almost explode at the connection between IVM and anti-viral. Just trying to move people along a little bit.
Smart. Very smart. Can I copy?