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Apr 10, 2023·edited Apr 10, 2023

Just looking at her face, that does not look like the same woman as the one who fainted. Not even close. This is MORE sick gaslighting. Completely different face shape.

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It doesn't matter if it's her or not. I could not care less for this person. Have they been honest, she would speak out when it happened - her or her family.

In my family and among friends, there are more and more deaths and serious injuries caused by this product. Further, we have statistics and we have loved ones or have suffered from this poison ourselves.

And they still have the audacity to say that she "suffered" because of "anti-vaxxers"?

These media and people are beyond being evil. They are brazen demons who laugh at human injustice, murder and the suffering of those whose loved ones were taken from them.

I have this at home, I look at this suffering every day.

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thanks OH....i agree, they are doing anything to make us rise up, freak out, make us think the world is fucked....when its they who are fucked.

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Yes, it's about constant fear and divisiveness.

What is needed is the realization of our eternity - us as eternal living beings, knowledge, love - instead of this fear and nescience.

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And the way to realize our eternity to to cast out of all language the word nothing In mathematics zero is useful but humanly it does not exist I am seventy-five years old and I have never experienced it Death is not the end of life but a part of life People grow up believing in the concept and out of fear they relinquish their greatest gift of personal responsibility to organized religion or some cult They miss their chance at a healthful creative life huddled in fear practicing for the afterlife

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Bingo, especially with the rising up bit ... but how long do we take it ?.

All in their "Out of chaos comes order" charter !.

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Yes. I’ve lost 8 personal friends after taking vax’s and boosters. Some have died. A few have life altering serious diseases. Why don’t people listen to us and see what’s happened? It’s a mind twister for sure. And very sad.

PS I know of no one who has died from COVID flu. Not one.

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Over Easter alone, I learned of another 3 serious injuries in my immediate family in one day.

Retinal detachment, serious digestive problems and urinary problems. And yes, it's true, people still don't associate the cause.

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Apr 13, 2023·edited Apr 13, 2023

Makes the early-on Covid death psyops and fakes make sick sense, preparing minds to see these deaths as part of Covid, to the normies. So deeply diabolical and death-culty. With every death I hear the cha-ching of their coffers.

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Indeed. The point is not whether someone is right or wrong, but how that power is being used:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-is-right-and-who-is-wrong

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Not sure if that's her or not, but the explanation makes no sense. The "conspiracy theory" began because she completely disappeared after passing out on live TV. I'm not sure who was harassing her if she couldn't be found anywhere. To end the conspiracy theory all she had to do was show her face on live TV once. Her excuse is that she was too shy. So she wasn't shy when she got the jab on live TV, then became shy after the jab, and now she's suddenly no longer shy and can go on TV again?

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Thats not her

fucking NUTS

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Nuremburg 2.0

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Who can tell under that blast of makeup?

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makeup doesn't change the shape of face, eyes, mouth, nose , ears nor the way hair grows on scalp. This is NOT Tiffany

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No but plastic surgery on a “double” would

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The mouth, the nose, the eyes, utterly different. Even the way she is holding her head and the expression on her face, her mouth. My God, just exactly how stupid do they think we are?

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They could have trolled us harder by picking a different ethnicity lol

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Think Fetterman

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"This is not an orange" comes to mind

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it also looks as though this tiffany's eyes are larger and not as deeply set as the original tiffany's eyes. hmmmm. interesting...

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This is Tiffany Dover V.3.18. Next month they will roll out version V.4 on another mockingbird network with eyebrow upgrades and ear lobes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doppleganger/comments/kmpjp8/tiffany_dover_and_tiffany_dover/

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I just said that to my partner.

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More and more lies. Fortunately the foundation for what they present is LIES. All it takes is the beginning of independent thought that “THAT” can’t be true and the foundation spouting okay pedophilia and the sterilization of future generations just doesn’t make any sense!

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Or does make sense.

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I just said the same thing. It doesn't. For one thing, she looks much younger, in my opinion.

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Agree, not her. I remember her face explicitly.

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Not even close I second that. I never forget a face and that is not her.

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It’s not the same woman.

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Seems the new blond version would be a shorter person as well, maybe she didn't stand up in the interview either!

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Instead of questioning her identity, watch the original fainting video and ask yourself if she it looks genuine (like other vax fainting videos) or it it looks acted.

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I went through quite a few photos of her on Instagram when I heard about this the other day and it looks like her to me. Many people have changed a bit in the last several years, put on 20 to 30 pounds etc. You’ll see it if you see her face unmasked. This situation has not been health promoting.

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I agree. She is a naturally beautiful woman without artificial enhancement in the original pictures. She went all glitzy and blonde in the present day incarnation. She appears to see a future as a Tik Tok star. Maybe a miniseries, "Nurses of Covid". She could contact Stormy Daniels for career advice.

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The eye colour looks to same to me. Hard to match that colour with a double I reckon.

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Dude this isn't really how people talk here. I don't think it's the same person either, but even if that poster is a troll it's just unneeded. Don't make us look like assholes. The idiocy of this speaks for itself, no insults needed.

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To make a buck.

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As you suggest, that explanation makes no sense whatsoever. If people were harassing her so badly, she could have simply gone public. If the hospital didn't want her to go public with her healthy self, why? I have not heard of anyone harassing vaccine-injured people, unless in the myriad ways we know those in authority deny their rights. Now that there is increasing evidence of the harms caused by the injections, it's a good time to try and make it seem that vaccine injury is mild, just like myocarditis, right?

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she was on a podcast called "tiffany dover is dead". 😂 haha they're telling us openly.

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I agree. I don’t know of any “anti-vaxxer” who would EVER harrass a vaccine injured person...

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True! Though I have sent confirming pieces of Information that the Jabs do cause harm, to a former friend who took the Moderna shots, (and told me so), and now has myocarditis.

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The only harassment I've seen of the vax-injured was from the vax nazis who were blaming them for vaccine hesitancy

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By disappearing, she increased vax hesitancy and thus is responsible for spreading Covid.

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Huh? Vaccines don’t decrease spread - that’s old news

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I shoulda added a sarcasm tag!

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You shouldn’t have to!

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I’m gonna assume you’re being sarcastic? Or at least I hope so.

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Yes I was being sarcastic, sorry it wasn't clear.

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It was quite clear.

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Agree. I don't think there's an actual human being on this Substack that would make that statement unsarcastically. Have noticed, however, that sarcasm too often gets lost on these posts.

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But, there are. There are plenty of trolls (mask defenders, pro-vaxxers, etc.) that show up from time to time. They may be fake accounts created only to stir the pot, but nobody’s Substack is immune.

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Until you posted this I had forgotten all about her. I did not know she was a poster child for anything. My decision was clearly based on the actions of the CDC, the FDA, the NIH and their insane protocols, the complete and utter failure of our healthcare system.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm an X-vaxxer.

That decision was made because I knew it was a complete lie the moment they said lockdown. How did I know? 35 years experience with our government, media and healthcare system. The maker of vaccines have had liability protection since 1986. There is no proof positive that vaccines work or that our children require 70 shots by the time they are 18. When I was a child we never heard of autism, peanut allergies, ADHD, Auto immune issues, etc. Etc. And now they want me to believe "dying suddenly and unexpectedly" is normal?

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Apr 10, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller

MCM, thanks for posting this, and I like your questions! Regardless of the real story here, and I remain deeply skeptical, I do wish to express my profound thanks to the Chief Propagandist, Zadrozny, who admits at least one thing that many of us "skeptics" were warning about when they rolled out their ubiquitous "Drive Thru" covid jab clinics. If fainting "post vax" (aka post bioweapon) does in fact "HAPPEN ALL THE TIME" (which I already knew, thank you very much) then perhaps it was NOT a great idea, from a "public health point of view" (LOL) to set up hundreds (thousands?) of "DRIVE THRU" covid jab clinics, in which the vaccinee is literally sitting behind the wheel of a deadly weapon known as a MOTOR VEHICLE. Friends don't let friends drive JUST-NEWLY-VAXXINATED! The stupification is almost too immense to contemplate.

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Also shouldn't the people be seated in a chair with arms so they don't fall and crack their skull if fainting is so common?

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Yeah. That stuck out to me. Fainting after a shot is completely normal?I've never even heard of that until this jab. The things that have become "normal" now. 😳

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That's an EXCELLENT point, Will!

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Doesn't look like the real Tiffany Dover.

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Looking five years younger with blond hair doesn't convince you?

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Don't say that tooo loud - Big Pharma will come out with a new ad campaign that looking younger and turning blond are side effects of the jab.

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She looks heavier too though.

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Anyone can gain weight after 2 years. I'm looking at how her hair is split. It was on the right side in the photo, and split in the middle in the supposed photo later on that nobody believed was her and is split in the middle again here. Otherwise too close to call

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Now we all gotta be physiognomy experts too?! - I would say shape of the forehead is distinctly different. (that's almost all we see of the masked Tiffany ).

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Too many Girl Scout cookies.

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These days anything can be a deepfake

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Zadrozny cleared up exactly what happened to Dover on that day: “She got a vaccine and she fainted. It happens all the time, literally all the time. It’s funny because Tiffany said to me, ‘What a teachable moment that would have been if I had been able to speak out and said, hey, you might faint after you get a vaccine but it’s worth it because it could save your life.'”

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That's certainly what somebody interested in public health would think, but I watched nurses perform TikTok dances all pandemic, so.............

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It might be a version of "what happened that day," but it doesn't explain the day after, or the weeks, months and years after that. Nice try.

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Exactly. And look at the phrasing.

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It’s funny because Tiffany said to me, ‘What a teachable moment that would have been if I had been able to speak out and said, hey, you might faint after you get a vaccine but it’s worth it because it could save your life.'

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Why couldn't she speak out? Who was preventing her from doing so and why?

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The excuse is that she was too shy, but isn't too shy now. Maybe she saw a psychologist and got over it? LOL

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But she wasn't too shy to get a shot on live tv?

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To be fair, this does happen. It’s called a vasovagal reaction, it happens to me every single time I get a shot. I have to be laying down when they give me the injection. But I know it will happen and I would never take a shot on national TV. The story is very odd.

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If she was known to faint after getting a shot, why would they choose her to go on live national TV to get the shot?

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I don’t know, it’s very odd. It happens to me every single time. I would never get a shot on TV or in front of anyone but the nurse or doctor giving it to me. She is young, maybe she didn’t know?

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Knowing that you faint after getting a shot, you would probably not volunteer to get an injection on live national TV.

She's old enough and has been a nurse long enough to know. I'm sure that wasn't her first shot.

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Just curious, do you faint IMMEDIATELY after the shot, or does it take 5-10-15 minutes after the shot? I'm asking because Tiffany D. did the interview many minutes after getting the shot and then fainted. Your thoughts?

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Apr 11, 2023·edited Apr 11, 2023

Not immediately, usually within 10 minutes. Standing up and moving around will trigger it faster though.

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got it. thanks!

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"If she was known to faint after getting a shot, why would they choose her to go on live national TV to get the shot?"

To stir up anti vaxxers ..... so they could be discredited as deranged lunatics when she re-appears a year later? I just watched the original fainting video again and it looks a bit 'acted' compared to all the other fainting videos from the last 2 years.

The plot thickens... :)

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This is Arkmedic's theory.

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/is-tiffany-dover-responsible-for

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Yeah thanks, I read that post last night (from another link left in this comment thread). It makes a lot of sense. I think she either fainted for real and the bad publicity it generated was somehow taken over and deliberately twisted to make anti vaxxers look deranged.... or the whole fainting event was a set up from the beginning for the same objective (to lure anti vaxxers into making false claims that could later be exposed as false).

Either way the VAERS reports (and other sources) have already confirmed the vax to be the biggest medical crime in history (and that's before we even get to the long term effects like infertility), so whatever did or did not happen to TD does not change this.

It's interesting that the TD story is being reported (in the mainstream) as if her reaction was the only evidence anti vaxxers have that the vax was harmful. That is so disingenuous as to be fraud, regardless of the rest of the story. Anyway thanks for the link.

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To have an ICU nurse who has fainted from previous shots go in front of media was a strange choice.

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It's so common that's the reason for the 15-minute wait before you're allowed to leave the area. So why not just say so a week after it happened?

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I agree. My personal belief is that she had a fairly benign vasovagal reaction on TV. Just like they said. However, in the days and weeks following she suffered some serious adverse reactions that kept her from being able to go on TV or be seen in public. Maybe now she’s finally recovered enough to be seen.

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That sounds entirely plausible.

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Within a month of that Dec. 17th media event, the husband (Dustin Dover) listed himself as single on FaceBook. Now FB is not a legal document, but that would be very strange for someone with a living spouse.

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In the U.K. the 15 minute observation period was deemed not necessary and abolished, ‘they’ were so impatient to get as many as possible jabbed and through the Russian-roulette extermination centres.

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Holy!

Maybe that was why I watched a few videos of people dropping after getting off the buses?

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The injections (labeled mRNA) are a whole different animal. The "traditional" vaccines were a scam and dangerous, the covid ones are distributed where 5% of the lots are causing nearly all the disabilities and deaths (more than all the other shots in 30 years of reporting - based on the VAERS database). The contents of the older childhood and flu shots were equally toxic, no lot differentiated from another lot.

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As razorfist called it, “ dancing with the SARS” 🤪

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OR rooms were lonely places for a while because non-emergency cases were stopped in many places. On my med/surg floor when covid hit our area hard we suddenly had double rooms and our governor allowed us to go out of ratio-up to 14 patients on night shift, 12 on day shift. So, people who want to characterize all nurses as lazy and lying because they saw some videos are being misled and not trying hard to see the truth. The only good thing about the pandemic is that management was scarce.

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I honestly hoped it was a low-key way to get the word out that the hospitals were empty. We know that any nurse who came out and said it would be fired.

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Once the cases started it was a nightmare and I can say it was horrible in the other 13 hospitals in my HMO. Was it like that in all the other hospitals? I doubt everyone had the same experience, but I don't know. I was in a nurses facebook group and people in other states and travelers who had worked in different states related similar stories as mine. If some of those dancers were actual floor nurses, who is to say that their spike didn't come the next day or next week? Those videos being used to say all nurses are liars, lazy, covid wasn't bad in the hospital or for some people is an incorrect use of a piece of entertainment.

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Oh look. She's alive. Let me adjust the number of deaths in VAERS by 1. Phew. It was looking pretty scary before she came back to life.

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My Spider Sense indicates she was disabled for a very long time and was kept out of sight.

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My Spider Sense tells me she dropped dead in front of the camera and everything since is a fake.

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Indeed... doesn't look like the gal that lost consciousness, and I wouldn't put it past them to have a body double in place.

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Or a photo of a younger Tiffany. That's mostly what they did at Sandy Hook: They showed us photos of kids that were now 15 years older. All those classroom photos of kids supposedly killed showed kids wearing out of date clothes.

All the fakery that you're now seeing with the Covid "vax" has been going on a long, long time. Nearly all those mass shooting incidents are fakes. Even the George Floyd "murder by cop" was a fake. I saw a video interview of a nightclub owner; the woman said that the cop & Floyd were buddies; she'd employed them both as security. TPTB needed a change of subject just then. It was May of 2020 & too many people were questioning the seriousness of Covid. Of course the video of the woman was never shown again. How many people can shout "I can't breathe" when they're smothering? How often have you seen cops permit passersby walk so close to the action & even capture it on their phones?

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Something smells rotten to be sure and it isn't in Denmark.

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"There needs no ghost, my lord, come from the grave,

To tell us this."

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She got up after the fainting incident and was able to tell the press about her known vasovagal reaction. Which is probably what she was hoping was the case. The fact that they had to roll out Fake Tiffany Dover #1 days after the incident and that her death certificate made it onto the vital records sites and that all her social media went silent does seem to indicate she checked out permanently from this life very shortly after being duped into playing guinea pig and getting injected. Version 2023 of Tiffany Dover is clearly Fake Tiffany Dover #2.

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She survived rather longer than I thought? 🤔 I stand corrected, but I never knew about that second press interview/video...

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That, at least, would make sense.

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Apr 10, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller

if i were to guess, i'd say this was similar to damar hamlin - where she had a reaction and didn't want the public to know. for example, maybe it took this long to get a case of guillain barre under control to be able to speak publicly?

absolute BS that she went into hiding because she was harassed. being blogged about, speculated about, is not the same as being harassed - which she could have easily cleared up with a brief announcement, but more importantly, she contributed to by deleting her online profiles etc. i seriously doubt anyone was knocking on her door or following her. and OMG the "icon" of the anti vax movement? hardly. we have a million horrific examples, as if we need a million and one.

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Apr 10, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller

I saw the live video of her getting injected and watched her Drop Dead. Damar Hamlin Dropped Dead on live TV and I saw that too. He had CPR for 9 minutes and he Dropped Dead again in the ER. Tiffany wasn't given proper CPR so she didn't survive. I don't need any photos to know what happened.

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'Conspiracy theor' appears 20 times in this article about the blonde woman claiming to be Tiffany Dover so NBC must be right and we must all be conspiracy theorists. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/tiffany-dover-conspiracy-theorists-silence-rcna69401

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please note, the episode of the podcast she was on was called "tiffany dover is dead". uh yeah we know, but we appreciate you spelling it out for us

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I cannot imagine people who question the safety of these covid drugs (they are not vaccines) would turn into a harrassing mob against someone injured by them. Not sure where Crispin is coming from here. The propaganda mill run by the medical industry and the oligarchy is quite adamant to deny the adverse effects and goes to wild lengths to prevent that info from hitting the public. That is all I can see in this event--the attempt to keep it out of the media. Look at the football player Hamlin who has been all over the media but gagged from talking about his health and the event of his dying on the field. Sudden Adult Death is happening to many people, not just those in the media limelight. I lost a friend this way.

I also condemn the use of the ad hominam 'anti-vaxxer.' It was created to demean those who questioned the safety of these drugs and those who refused to be medicated against their will which is their legal right. Using this term is not only condescending and demeaning but is also created for its divisive effects. Isn't it time for people to begin to learn to talk together respectfully even when disagreeing!

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I think I'm coming from where you're coming from.

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Good to know. Thanx

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just like the cia created the term conspiracy theory after the murder of jfk.

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absolutely and it now has become a common insult and demeaning as hominem whenever someone doesn't like what you say. communication has been reduced to official name calling!

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Linguistic theft is a major part of all of this agenda

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I’m with you you on the ‘anti-vaxxer’ moniker. It is meant to demean and divide. A person can’t be able to decide what they put in their body, something that might ‘harm’ them...it’s just downright Un-American to not accept the ‘party line’ of the Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery Complex! I’ve never ‘bought’ what ‘they’ were selling since way before the Scamdemic!

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Anti-vaxxer = bad. Therefore by implication pro-vaxxer = good.

That means vaccines are officially a cult practice and not a science-based practice. They literally cannot be questioned in our culture or in the medical/ scientific community, which means they are outside of the scope of science which is based on skepticism and falsifiability.

However 'divisive' the vaccine issue is the one thing everyone in society agrees on is that to question vaccines is socially taboo.

This is why the industry has never done a vaxxed vs unvaxxed study (again, putting vaccines outside of the scope of science). A doctor who recently carried out a vaxxed vs unvaxxed study at his practice found the vaxxed children had massively elevated rates of sickness and disease compared to the unvaxxed children at his practice (asthma, ear infections, autism, ADHD, colds, anaemia etc).

As a result of publishing the study he had his license taken away, further proving that vaccines are a cult practice and not a scientific/ medical one.

Whether vaccines are safe or not is kind of a side issue. The fact that they are non-scientific practice should be what we focus on because everyone already agrees with this definition (even if they haven't quite realised it yet).

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They put heavy metals and other toxins in these shots, otherwise it would just pass through people in a day or two. Can't have a real vaccine last only a day or two in the body.

Mercury, and aluminum are neurotoxins. They often put mercury or aluminum in these shots, but when people have a neurological injury they say that it can't be the shot.

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What I found interesting to study is how people who seem to understand corporatism as something not trustworthy or honest (remember tobacco science!), cannot see the medical industry based on pharma profits and public manipulation as just another corporate based industry that uses the same lies and fraudulent 'science' to propagandize the public. For some reason the public believes this industry actually is about caring for the public in a benign way. Well Cognitive Dissonance can be created in anything if the lies are big enough and enough money is behind them.

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It's been mobs of big pharma bootlickers who have been attacking and harassing the jab-injured. They blame them for causing vaccine hesitancy

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I am aware of the backlash created by the pharma industry and the govt agencies that profit from it.

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"Anti-vaxer" is same dynamic as "conspiracy theorist" - the story of the latter is well known, well documented - i.e. directive from CIA to major media circa 1965 to use the term to discredit those questioning the Warren Commission (report on JFK assassination). Some media studies student (who wants to ruin their career chances) could look into the Anti-Vaxer dynamic - just tracing the history of google hits would be of great interest.

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Absolutely. Have written about this ad hominem many times trying to get people to stop using these terms. Read this a.m. a report of an international vaccine conference attended mainly by the industry with a couple of other folks. The poster described his interactions with these 100's of 'professional people' as generally accepting of his pointed questions but generally ignorant of any of the research that puts the lie to these drugs. At one point he addressed the body asking them to cease using the term 'anti-vaxxer' as it was demeaning and meaningless. He attempted to raise consciousness that most people are hesitant due to the damage that is recorded and what they see in people. He really sounded like he kept his cool and seriously engaged with these pro-pharma, pro-covid people who seemed primarily concerned with creating a "narrative" to change people's minds and never thinking perhaps they need to talk with them to understand why they oppose these drugs.

The history you cite was well known in my younger days of active involvement. Stunning how such a propaganda piece became so embedded in people's thinking, on both the right and the left.

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Huh? Have not heard that. When did that happen? Must see if I can find something.

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I believe she is the daughter of Ben.

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& Philomena Mecrackin...

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Niiiiccce one!

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Apr 11, 2023Liked by Mark Crispin Miller

Next week, the newly discovered Dan Rather interview with Lee Harvey Oswald from Nov. 23, 1963 in which Oswald admits he killed JFK by himself.

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🤡

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Did her resurrection air on Easter?

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