True. It’s a mental health issue now. I have 2 sisters who are just nuts now. Totally. Seething in anger and outrage. Bleating like stuck hogs their so called truth that everyone must honor or the rest of us are just —quote:”ignorant”. I’m sick of them. I’m not closing any doors. I’m just walking away. I don’t need this. Like the wicked witch in the wizard of oz—throw a bucket of truth on them snd they will melt braying shite into their own dirt.
Don't walk away, don't back down. Get the data, carry it with you if you have to, and work them, patiently work them, don't get angry, as Malone likes saying: "The Truth is like a lion. You don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself. "
We will win this existential battle against the Davos pyshopath parasites when most people no longer believe their lies and liars.
Yeah. But I’m over that. I’ve tried. They are on their own and lost. It’s very sad. I’m 74. I want to make the rest of my life full of peace and joy. Help where I can. Be a light but I can’t with them. One lives 4,000 miles away. The other has basically barricaded herself from the rest of us. But what do I have to lose if I do send them more truth. I’ve told others basically so the can’t “unsee” it now. Thanks for your words.
I've patiently talked to many friends about the covid shots. Several of them have been double jabbed but say they will not get boosted. Don't give up hope. Many are starting to wake up.
I would use the risk/reward argument with those people. You can be pro-vaxx, lockdown & mask mandate but if you capitulate and side with us, what do you have to lose? You can still vaxx, you can still lock yourself down, avoid the unvaxxed & wear your mask. You just can't force others to do the same. You will get Florida, rather than California. Or Sweden, rather than Belgium. How horrible is that? I see Covidian's Pelosi & AOC taking long vacations in Florida, not sunny California. I don't see a lot Covidians moving to California from Florida, it can't be that bad for them. In fact the opposite is true.
But if we capitulate and side with you, we know what the future will bring. Vaxx passports, Digital IDs, Draconian laws and sanctions against us, Central Bank Digital Currency and direct control of our ability to travel, to buy food, to work, to buy firearms etc., all done with just a few keystrokes on a computer. And that's for everyone including you. A Totalitarian World techno-Feudal state. Nowhere to hide, nowhere to run. And quite possibly genocide on a scale never seen, population reduction on the basis of climate change fear porn & limits to growth nonsense. Club of Rome policy.
Don't ya think that to avoid any chance of getting the latter it's worth accepting the former?
Now, to prove that we are on the same page, I completely agree with absolutley everything you just said here. It's like you are 2 people. Are you sure you don't have a SPD?
Overview of the Evidence of Widespread Covid Vaccine Injuries and Deaths - Documenting the Enormous Increase in Injuries/Deaths Since the Vaccine Rollout
This is somewhat similar to days of Noah in 2 ways.... we see biblical doom coming (already showing itself). And we try so hard to tell people. And we are met with contempt. My youngest daughter wants kids later. She's 17. She quickly leaves if I say anything, as does all my extended family exc 2... I want to tell her , besides death, or maiming, it seems like the depopulation cabal is targeting reproductive organs.
But SHE AND EVERYONE WON'T EVEN LISTEN. Maybe no kids for her, no gr kids for me. ( She hasn't taken killshot, and but she'll be 18 soon
Yes, and I love it even more when that person goes in with some rapid stiletto thrusts: 'You haven't heard a lot of things...but that's not my problem', 'people like you', 'you're in an echo chamber', 'you say things that aren't true'. That Covid Karen was reeling by the end!
Thanks Joel. I’m bracing myself for the covid Karen’s as things get worse. I’m envisioning this exact conversation at a party or family event, with me in Dominique’s role. So I will bookmark your article to whip out on my phone should I need it!
The brainwashing is thick among those hosts. They deny any existence of data to the contrary of what they believe. Sounds like flat earther or major religion logic.
First Principles demand we answer this question: has SARS-Cov-2 ever been purified and isolated AND demonstrated through control experiments to cause "Covid-19"? The rest is just arguing in circles. For an explanation of what has been going on in clear, first principle form:
It's called Virology 101. We will lose the debate if many people on the right side start going off into the bushes promoting the "there are no viruses" crap. It's like the 9/11 Truth proponents spouting off about "there were no planes" or "they were atomic bombs" or "they were directed energy weapons".
The germ v terrain theory argument has absorbed very little of my time but what is unequivocal is that the PCR fraud DOES NOT TEST FOR A SPECIFIC NOVEL PATHOGEN. PERIOD. That allowed TPTB to rebrand, generally, seasonal respiratory distress to be a phantom menace to be uniquely feared when in realit, just as the young lady in the video is trying to articulate to the two old blowhards is, ITS JUST THE FLU. The media is the virus AND all official interventions and countermeasures were actually the primary mechanisms of harm.
Most people here know the PCR test is meaningless with high cycles. But it's also meaningless at low cycles. The typical PCR test checks ONLY ~50 bases (letters) out of the 30,000 bases of the so-called SARS-COV-2 "virus" for a match. The PCR test can't check if the rest of the 30,000-50 bases is actually present! And since the SARS-COV-2 "virus" has never been purified, it's impossible to know if the 30,000 letters of the SARS-COV-2 genome really exists or if it's just cellular debris. Antigen and antibody tests are also garbage. ViroLIEgy is junk science.
This comment is an example of making a scientific question, not divisive in itself, into a divisive issue.
Crap? Spouting off? Those are just terms of abuse, not thought. I am not sure that pathogenic viruses are fictional, although I lean now in that direction. But I do know that I don’t want dogmatic personalities in charge of what one can discuss.
You sound very Woke. A fair scientific question is that the plandemic was a PCR test pandemic, and most of the supposed deaths were just the normal flu or other causes. No virus, 5G, chemtrails theories are crap, they are not serious scientific questions and that's my opinion and the opinion of the vast majority of people on OUR side. I'm 100% Ok with people debating them in their own right, I just don't like how every discussion on the Plandemic these "no virus" types seem to come out of the woodwork, which could well be a deliberate effort to poison the debate.
I left Cambridge, Maskachusetts, because the woke jab fanatics had become a danger to our children. So, no, I am not woke.
I agree that the PCR test is a fraud. And this fraud is probably enough to explain the whole scamdemic, whether or not there's a new pathogenic virus.
But on the general point: Scientific questions aren't settled by majority votes but by presentation of argument and evidence. There are serious scientific questions about viral isolation from the very beginnings of the field, about viral-genome sequencing (have you looked at the farce of how the so-called "next-generation sequencing" works?), about whether 5G frequencies (which are quite varied) have important biological effects (for example,, on voltage-gated calcium channels) even at nonionizing levels. Dismissing these issues as "crap" reflects ignorance of important matters.
Bringing up whether there's a pathogenic virus could be an attempt to poison the debate. But it's hard to be sure about other people's intentions. It could also be an attempt to prevent this scamdemic from being run again, just with a more dangerous "virus" (just kill more people with Mengele protocols in the shock-and-awe starting phase than were killed in this scamdemic, add a few more crisis actors falling over, blame all the jab deaths for this "virus" on the new "virus", etc.).
For my part, I don't like how almost every discussion on the scamdemic simply assumes that there's a pathogenic virus and that we need more treatments (just cheaper ones like ivermectin).
"Debate"? With whom? Isn't science suppose to be about seeking the truth, not dismissing it because you fear "losing a debate"? If and until we come to terms with this, it will continue with one fictional variant and new faux computer generated genome after another. That is the crux. Those running this sham want nothing more than to keep their baseless "pathogen" standing for future use.
I think we are generally on the same side here, as, after all, we're both here. But it doesn't hurt to question everything, all these people who question the existence of a virus at all; or the use of DEW on the towers are doing is asking more questions that you and finding the answers coming up short. Have, you got a better explaination as to what made three of the largest buildings on the planet, literally free fall to the ground inside their own footprint. My issue with the previously planted explosives is that it would have taken months to to that and I dont see how they could have done that in an operational building without any of the facilities management staff realising something was up. I don't actually know what happened that day, but it wasn't caused by planes even if they were there. Also, if you personally have the evidence of a SARS COV 2 isolate infecting a healthy cell and multiplying, i'd be interested to see it.
I see zero issue with controlled demo planting now matter how long it took. Prob were working on since 1993-4 after serial number found on Ryder Rental van. In fact those bumbling idiots were basically the cover for it. Also you can plausibly see the small blast clouds sequentially by floors before the overall limit of dust just exceeds the radius of the the little blasts.
Agree with you 100%on all of that, including plausible small blasts and thermite visuals. I also agree that they could have done the rigging over years. The DEW theory I'll admit is a long shot, I just don't discount anything
No all WTC buildings were done with explosive & nano-thermate cutting charges. There were teams working in the buildings supposedly doing electrical upgrades in the elevator shafts. There is reams of evidence to support that. Not easy but quite doable. No rocket science needed.
I'm not a microbiologist so I have no evidence of anything. Things in the microscopic world are typically investigated with statistical methods, because you are dealing with such a vast number of particles. For instance it is virtually certain you have a molecule of oxygen in your lungs that was expelled from Julius Caesar's lungs on his last breath. You don't have to find said molecule to prove that.
I did investigate this "no viruses" theory a while ago, listened to expert opinions and concluded it was nonsense. And I'm generally a skeptic of the establishment. If you can't convince me you ain't going to convince but a tiny minority of the population. You achieve nothing but diversion and weakening the credibility of the whole movement, poisoning the well. Why don't divert towards "it's all caused by 5G" or "it's all caused by chemtrails" or "it's all caused by Alien death rays".
It's OK everyone, SmithFS says that he's done all the investigating that anyone needs to do on anything ever again, so please just listen to him (i hope i assumed your gender correctly).
I'm not sure i've ever come across someone so self-aggrandising, but if it makes you happy to assume the position of "Self Appointed Oracle of Humans", then please carry on. Whatever floats your boat.
I don’t think that the issue itself is divisive. How can trying to find the truth be divisive?
Rather, the injunctions often wrapped around the issue can be divisive -- such as the claim that nothing else matters or that this question has to be answered first.
I happen to agree that there’s no pathogenic virus Sars-Cov2 and think that probably there are no pathogenic viruses at all. But most people fighting the biofascism don’t agree, and we fight together anyway. Hell, many fighting it want to call it communism rather than fascism. We disagree but rise up together anyway.
I haven’t looked enough at all the comments on many substacks to have a decent overall opinion on which side is more vicious. But in the comments to this article, the winner for abusiveness is the “there’s a virus so shut up” side.
My rule of thumb is that the truth doesn’t need abuse for its defense. I have taught Newton’s laws of motion for a long time and am sure they are true. If someone asks for evidence, I don’t feel any hostility.
You obviously haven't seen the video. The question I posed is critical to any conversation about a "pathogenic virus" causing a "pandemic". Until that is dealt with, all other conversations are moot.
Wrong. If there IS a virus, whose effects were systematically exaggerated to get everyone to heel, THAT is cause enough for people to rebel. You think it isn't? If so, you're too much of a purist for this all-important fight.
I think you're projecting. First I'm not a "purist". As you know the world was shut down, numerous dictates were issued and much of the world collapsed, on the claim of an invisible "pathogenic virus"; not on anything else.
That's the "fight". The battle for or against a treatment begs the question.
Agree, but I do find it odd that anyone questioning mRNA jabs, masks and a slew of authoritative unscientific "mandates" would only think that proof of the supposed cause of all this is somehow "divisive" and therefore an out of bounds inquiry.
It ain't out of bounds, but it is legitimizing the fringe, and the proof of the supposed cause is there, it just is highly technical and tedious for the layman, like asking me to prove quarks exist, or any argument about anything physical is pointless until you prove what really exists. I still say you are like the flag carrying Nazi that shows up to the anti-Covid Mandates protest.
No if you watched the video you'd see it's quite simple and nothing like the hocus pocus of allopathic dogma. Following the jargon and complete baseless fundamentals of science so-called experts tout to say it exists requires suspended belief in language.
SmithFS your last sentence is highly offensive, and demonstrates you are not up to the task of such a sorely needed discussion.
I’m bracing myself for the covid Karen’s who will blame and shun the unjabbed when they all soon get chronic covid and maybe cause a deadly variant. As seen in the video, they will never blame the jab. Of course the situation will be an excuse to mess with the US midterm election since these same people can’t afford to lose power.
What’s the MIC? I’ve been on the right, but have definitely awakened to the “uniparty”. If our country goes down, I will blame the Republicans who talked a good game to get elected but betrayed us in DC. I’m glad to meet so many here on Substack who come from the left and have also awakened. One “leftist” idea I’ve now embraced is to distrust big corporations. I always thought unfettered capitalism was king but Pharma has awakened me to the corruption I had previously ignored.
So true! What can we do? Maybe the predicted mass die-off will wake everyone up? I work in US election integrity, but is it worth my time anymore? So depressing…
Saw this episode when it first was aired, Mark. It's a typical infuriatingly uninformative example of disingenuous advocacy. The "tell" is in the manner with which a faux-outrage is manufactured to disrupt conveyance of facts. Interrupt, insult disrupt, assert; rinse and repeat.
Fuck me, Ted; you actually watch the Jeremy Vine show in full. Thats taking one for the team to the next level. I can't even watch these little snippets without wanting the scream with rage at the fucking gobshite and as for his chosen Nazi friends thats he has as guest, a very special place in hell for all of them. Fair play to that Dominique lady though, how did they let her on?
I don't spend much energy worrying about what Joe's going to do, but I keep a little votive candle lit for the idea that he's treading water or going rope-a-dope until he thinks the time is strategically optimal.
I'm ready for him to come out swinging anytime...maybe he'll decide to skewer the new Mary Poppins over at the new KGB. Even better would be a reprise visit with Snowden or Bill Binney.
I haven't watched any of his recent shows (except for a few clips here & there on YT), so I'll trust your reading of what was in his eyes. I'm sure he's aware of how far The Ghouls will go to silence a voice that is a serious problem for their plans.
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Hey, by the way, have you gotten a few emails from me relatively recently that you haven't for whatever reason replied to? I was wondering about it and noticed the email you sent to put me in touch with Leslie came from a non-substack account.
If you didn't get them, let me know and I'll forward them via the Leslie email path.
If you *did* get them, let me know and I'll figure that you'll get around to answering a couple questions in them eventually.
Seriously, no rush...and forget about the thing about translating a sign in Nagoya from Kanji to English. I have a line on someone I used to work with back in Seattle who, if they can't do the xlation themselves directly, probably has a friend who can do it.
Watch thehighwire.com May 5th episode which supports everything this young woman says and far more. It predicts the Experimental Gene Therapy injections are going to bring a Blowback from Hell over the next 1-2 years.
This age is characterized most by one thing: Hatred of the truth. In almost every field. It's shocking, depressing, hilarious, enfuriating.
True. It’s a mental health issue now. I have 2 sisters who are just nuts now. Totally. Seething in anger and outrage. Bleating like stuck hogs their so called truth that everyone must honor or the rest of us are just —quote:”ignorant”. I’m sick of them. I’m not closing any doors. I’m just walking away. I don’t need this. Like the wicked witch in the wizard of oz—throw a bucket of truth on them snd they will melt braying shite into their own dirt.
Don't walk away, don't back down. Get the data, carry it with you if you have to, and work them, patiently work them, don't get angry, as Malone likes saying: "The Truth is like a lion. You don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself. "
We will win this existential battle against the Davos pyshopath parasites when most people no longer believe their lies and liars.
Yeah. But I’m over that. I’ve tried. They are on their own and lost. It’s very sad. I’m 74. I want to make the rest of my life full of peace and joy. Help where I can. Be a light but I can’t with them. One lives 4,000 miles away. The other has basically barricaded herself from the rest of us. But what do I have to lose if I do send them more truth. I’ve told others basically so the can’t “unsee” it now. Thanks for your words.
I've patiently talked to many friends about the covid shots. Several of them have been double jabbed but say they will not get boosted. Don't give up hope. Many are starting to wake up.
I would use the risk/reward argument with those people. You can be pro-vaxx, lockdown & mask mandate but if you capitulate and side with us, what do you have to lose? You can still vaxx, you can still lock yourself down, avoid the unvaxxed & wear your mask. You just can't force others to do the same. You will get Florida, rather than California. Or Sweden, rather than Belgium. How horrible is that? I see Covidian's Pelosi & AOC taking long vacations in Florida, not sunny California. I don't see a lot Covidians moving to California from Florida, it can't be that bad for them. In fact the opposite is true.
But if we capitulate and side with you, we know what the future will bring. Vaxx passports, Digital IDs, Draconian laws and sanctions against us, Central Bank Digital Currency and direct control of our ability to travel, to buy food, to work, to buy firearms etc., all done with just a few keystrokes on a computer. And that's for everyone including you. A Totalitarian World techno-Feudal state. Nowhere to hide, nowhere to run. And quite possibly genocide on a scale never seen, population reduction on the basis of climate change fear porn & limits to growth nonsense. Club of Rome policy.
Don't ya think that to avoid any chance of getting the latter it's worth accepting the former?
Now, to prove that we are on the same page, I completely agree with absolutley everything you just said here. It's like you are 2 people. Are you sure you don't have a SPD?
I'm very glad you are beginning to understand!
Are we in a cult?
Here are 10 warning signs of a potentially unsafe group or leader.
* Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
* No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
*No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget or expenses, such as an independently audited financial statement.
* Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
* There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
* Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
*There are records, books, news articles, or broadcast reports that document the abuses of the group/leader.
*Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
*The group/leader is always right.
*The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
I’ve heard, and based on the people I know who are jabbed.
The shot does something to their brains.
Removed critical thinking skills.
Instead of a conversation about topics, everything is a fight.
Yes! I can’t express anything without an in my face reply. I have to walk on eggshells. But not any more. I’m walking away.
No more eggshell walks on any subject.
That’s how we got into this mess.
We allowed our thoughts and opinions to be silenced .
PC is an emotional warfare for controlling the masses.
If we all said No More Klaus, Fauci, Gates, Soros!
Those rodents would lose
Damn some good posts
"Removed critical thinking skills."
Why do you assume it was there in the first place?
Overview of the Evidence of Widespread Covid Vaccine Injuries and Deaths - Documenting the Enormous Increase in Injuries/Deaths Since the Vaccine Rollout
https://ashmedai.substack.com/p/overview-of-the-real-world-experience
Excellent article. Thanks.
Do you walk around by yourself, jaw dropping at it all? Cause I do
Good one hon!!
This is somewhat similar to days of Noah in 2 ways.... we see biblical doom coming (already showing itself). And we try so hard to tell people. And we are met with contempt. My youngest daughter wants kids later. She's 17. She quickly leaves if I say anything, as does all my extended family exc 2... I want to tell her , besides death, or maiming, it seems like the depopulation cabal is targeting reproductive organs.
But SHE AND EVERYONE WON'T EVEN LISTEN. Maybe no kids for her, no gr kids for me. ( She hasn't taken killshot, and but she'll be 18 soon
She may be 18 soon, but if she expects you to care for her after a jab injury, then she has no right to take it without your consent.
You are absolutely 💯 correct
Correct. John 14:6.
Also They that do not love the truth.... very stern warning. I think we are seeing it right before our eyes....
I do too.
I love how Dominique didn’t back down or give an inch when talking to someone so brainwashed. It was refreshing to see.
I love when someone can hold their ground, stay cool and articulate well against “those” people.
Yes, and I love it even more when that person goes in with some rapid stiletto thrusts: 'You haven't heard a lot of things...but that's not my problem', 'people like you', 'you're in an echo chamber', 'you say things that aren't true'. That Covid Karen was reeling by the end!
She was so good I devoted an entire analysis to support her! https://metatron.substack.com/p/re-analysis-of-covid-19-vaccine-weekly?s=w
Thanks Joel. I’m bracing myself for the covid Karen’s as things get worse. I’m envisioning this exact conversation at a party or family event, with me in Dominique’s role. So I will bookmark your article to whip out on my phone should I need it!
Well done. Thank you!
Wait a minute...where are the Wokesters freaking out about this being white supremacy?
The Wokesters were probably too busy admiring Jeremy's ugly-ironic shirt.
Or calling Dominique a white supremacist for "spouting Trumpian conspiracy theories."
Meanwhile have you heard Christina Parks’ speech? She really puts the nail in that coffin!
https://rumble.com/vt7zb2-christina-parks-defeat-the-mandates-january-23-2022.html
The brainwashing is thick among those hosts. They deny any existence of data to the contrary of what they believe. Sounds like flat earther or major religion logic.
Dominique rocks it! That was fun.
Three minutes was my absolute limit for this kind of show. Dominique was great, but this format drives me insane.
First Principles demand we answer this question: has SARS-Cov-2 ever been purified and isolated AND demonstrated through control experiments to cause "Covid-19"? The rest is just arguing in circles. For an explanation of what has been going on in clear, first principle form:
https://youtu.be/9OGuWWI5aHE
Nonsense, you are doing a typical CIA stunt called "poisoning the well" and misdirection.
It is a needlessly divisive issue. People can—and many will—rise up, even if they still accept germ theory.
It's called Virology 101. We will lose the debate if many people on the right side start going off into the bushes promoting the "there are no viruses" crap. It's like the 9/11 Truth proponents spouting off about "there were no planes" or "they were atomic bombs" or "they were directed energy weapons".
The germ v terrain theory argument has absorbed very little of my time but what is unequivocal is that the PCR fraud DOES NOT TEST FOR A SPECIFIC NOVEL PATHOGEN. PERIOD. That allowed TPTB to rebrand, generally, seasonal respiratory distress to be a phantom menace to be uniquely feared when in realit, just as the young lady in the video is trying to articulate to the two old blowhards is, ITS JUST THE FLU. The media is the virus AND all official interventions and countermeasures were actually the primary mechanisms of harm.
Most people here know the PCR test is meaningless with high cycles. But it's also meaningless at low cycles. The typical PCR test checks ONLY ~50 bases (letters) out of the 30,000 bases of the so-called SARS-COV-2 "virus" for a match. The PCR test can't check if the rest of the 30,000-50 bases is actually present! And since the SARS-COV-2 "virus" has never been purified, it's impossible to know if the 30,000 letters of the SARS-COV-2 genome really exists or if it's just cellular debris. Antigen and antibody tests are also garbage. ViroLIEgy is junk science.
https://viroliegy.com/2022/04/26/introduction-to-viroliegy/
This comment is an example of making a scientific question, not divisive in itself, into a divisive issue.
Crap? Spouting off? Those are just terms of abuse, not thought. I am not sure that pathogenic viruses are fictional, although I lean now in that direction. But I do know that I don’t want dogmatic personalities in charge of what one can discuss.
You sound very Woke. A fair scientific question is that the plandemic was a PCR test pandemic, and most of the supposed deaths were just the normal flu or other causes. No virus, 5G, chemtrails theories are crap, they are not serious scientific questions and that's my opinion and the opinion of the vast majority of people on OUR side. I'm 100% Ok with people debating them in their own right, I just don't like how every discussion on the Plandemic these "no virus" types seem to come out of the woodwork, which could well be a deliberate effort to poison the debate.
I left Cambridge, Maskachusetts, because the woke jab fanatics had become a danger to our children. So, no, I am not woke.
I agree that the PCR test is a fraud. And this fraud is probably enough to explain the whole scamdemic, whether or not there's a new pathogenic virus.
But on the general point: Scientific questions aren't settled by majority votes but by presentation of argument and evidence. There are serious scientific questions about viral isolation from the very beginnings of the field, about viral-genome sequencing (have you looked at the farce of how the so-called "next-generation sequencing" works?), about whether 5G frequencies (which are quite varied) have important biological effects (for example,, on voltage-gated calcium channels) even at nonionizing levels. Dismissing these issues as "crap" reflects ignorance of important matters.
Bringing up whether there's a pathogenic virus could be an attempt to poison the debate. But it's hard to be sure about other people's intentions. It could also be an attempt to prevent this scamdemic from being run again, just with a more dangerous "virus" (just kill more people with Mengele protocols in the shock-and-awe starting phase than were killed in this scamdemic, add a few more crisis actors falling over, blame all the jab deaths for this "virus" on the new "virus", etc.).
For my part, I don't like how almost every discussion on the scamdemic simply assumes that there's a pathogenic virus and that we need more treatments (just cheaper ones like ivermectin).
"Debate"? With whom? Isn't science suppose to be about seeking the truth, not dismissing it because you fear "losing a debate"? If and until we come to terms with this, it will continue with one fictional variant and new faux computer generated genome after another. That is the crux. Those running this sham want nothing more than to keep their baseless "pathogen" standing for future use.
I think we are generally on the same side here, as, after all, we're both here. But it doesn't hurt to question everything, all these people who question the existence of a virus at all; or the use of DEW on the towers are doing is asking more questions that you and finding the answers coming up short. Have, you got a better explaination as to what made three of the largest buildings on the planet, literally free fall to the ground inside their own footprint. My issue with the previously planted explosives is that it would have taken months to to that and I dont see how they could have done that in an operational building without any of the facilities management staff realising something was up. I don't actually know what happened that day, but it wasn't caused by planes even if they were there. Also, if you personally have the evidence of a SARS COV 2 isolate infecting a healthy cell and multiplying, i'd be interested to see it.
I see zero issue with controlled demo planting now matter how long it took. Prob were working on since 1993-4 after serial number found on Ryder Rental van. In fact those bumbling idiots were basically the cover for it. Also you can plausibly see the small blast clouds sequentially by floors before the overall limit of dust just exceeds the radius of the the little blasts.
Agree with you 100%on all of that, including plausible small blasts and thermite visuals. I also agree that they could have done the rigging over years. The DEW theory I'll admit is a long shot, I just don't discount anything
No all WTC buildings were done with explosive & nano-thermate cutting charges. There were teams working in the buildings supposedly doing electrical upgrades in the elevator shafts. There is reams of evidence to support that. Not easy but quite doable. No rocket science needed.
I'm not a microbiologist so I have no evidence of anything. Things in the microscopic world are typically investigated with statistical methods, because you are dealing with such a vast number of particles. For instance it is virtually certain you have a molecule of oxygen in your lungs that was expelled from Julius Caesar's lungs on his last breath. You don't have to find said molecule to prove that.
I did investigate this "no viruses" theory a while ago, listened to expert opinions and concluded it was nonsense. And I'm generally a skeptic of the establishment. If you can't convince me you ain't going to convince but a tiny minority of the population. You achieve nothing but diversion and weakening the credibility of the whole movement, poisoning the well. Why don't divert towards "it's all caused by 5G" or "it's all caused by chemtrails" or "it's all caused by Alien death rays".
It's OK everyone, SmithFS says that he's done all the investigating that anyone needs to do on anything ever again, so please just listen to him (i hope i assumed your gender correctly).
I'm not sure i've ever come across someone so self-aggrandising, but if it makes you happy to assume the position of "Self Appointed Oracle of Humans", then please carry on. Whatever floats your boat.
After Covid and the things I've studied in correlation to
9/11 as a result, I am convinced it was faked by insiders somehow. Planes or not.
The buildings falling down was fake?!?
Obviously the buildings fell down but not incident solely to impact resulting from Islamic Extremist Hijackers piloting planes into them.
I would never have considered those things as possible and always wrote off 9/11 skeptics as whackos until Covid.
Since then I dug into it a little. Its hard to say I'm convinced but you cannot dismiss out of hand due to "they couldn't" or "they wouldn't".
I also know a lil about Flt 93.
I don’t think that the issue itself is divisive. How can trying to find the truth be divisive?
Rather, the injunctions often wrapped around the issue can be divisive -- such as the claim that nothing else matters or that this question has to be answered first.
I happen to agree that there’s no pathogenic virus Sars-Cov2 and think that probably there are no pathogenic viruses at all. But most people fighting the biofascism don’t agree, and we fight together anyway. Hell, many fighting it want to call it communism rather than fascism. We disagree but rise up together anyway.
The issue per se is not divisive, but the ferocity with which some on both sides approach it IS divisive.
Yes that is what I was also trying to express.
I haven’t looked enough at all the comments on many substacks to have a decent overall opinion on which side is more vicious. But in the comments to this article, the winner for abusiveness is the “there’s a virus so shut up” side.
My rule of thumb is that the truth doesn’t need abuse for its defense. I have taught Newton’s laws of motion for a long time and am sure they are true. If someone asks for evidence, I don’t feel any hostility.
You obviously haven't seen the video. The question I posed is critical to any conversation about a "pathogenic virus" causing a "pandemic". Until that is dealt with, all other conversations are moot.
Wrong. If there IS a virus, whose effects were systematically exaggerated to get everyone to heel, THAT is cause enough for people to rebel. You think it isn't? If so, you're too much of a purist for this all-important fight.
I think you're projecting. First I'm not a "purist". As you know the world was shut down, numerous dictates were issued and much of the world collapsed, on the claim of an invisible "pathogenic virus"; not on anything else.
That's the "fight". The battle for or against a treatment begs the question.
F all the F-ing doctors who swallowed their hippocratic oath as well. Sorry this is a kids cartoon and Barney has lost his cool.
Agree, but I do find it odd that anyone questioning mRNA jabs, masks and a slew of authoritative unscientific "mandates" would only think that proof of the supposed cause of all this is somehow "divisive" and therefore an out of bounds inquiry.
It ain't out of bounds, but it is legitimizing the fringe, and the proof of the supposed cause is there, it just is highly technical and tedious for the layman, like asking me to prove quarks exist, or any argument about anything physical is pointless until you prove what really exists. I still say you are like the flag carrying Nazi that shows up to the anti-Covid Mandates protest.
No if you watched the video you'd see it's quite simple and nothing like the hocus pocus of allopathic dogma. Following the jargon and complete baseless fundamentals of science so-called experts tout to say it exists requires suspended belief in language.
SmithFS your last sentence is highly offensive, and demonstrates you are not up to the task of such a sorely needed discussion.
That's really painful to watch... Do love her tenacity to be able to put up with that bombardment of utter shite from both sides.
I’m bracing myself for the covid Karen’s who will blame and shun the unjabbed when they all soon get chronic covid and maybe cause a deadly variant. As seen in the video, they will never blame the jab. Of course the situation will be an excuse to mess with the US midterm election since these same people can’t afford to lose power.
What’s the MIC? I’ve been on the right, but have definitely awakened to the “uniparty”. If our country goes down, I will blame the Republicans who talked a good game to get elected but betrayed us in DC. I’m glad to meet so many here on Substack who come from the left and have also awakened. One “leftist” idea I’ve now embraced is to distrust big corporations. I always thought unfettered capitalism was king but Pharma has awakened me to the corruption I had previously ignored.
Such hypocrisy!
So true! What can we do? Maybe the predicted mass die-off will wake everyone up? I work in US election integrity, but is it worth my time anymore? So depressing…
Saw this episode when it first was aired, Mark. It's a typical infuriatingly uninformative example of disingenuous advocacy. The "tell" is in the manner with which a faux-outrage is manufactured to disrupt conveyance of facts. Interrupt, insult disrupt, assert; rinse and repeat.
Fuck me, Ted; you actually watch the Jeremy Vine show in full. Thats taking one for the team to the next level. I can't even watch these little snippets without wanting the scream with rage at the fucking gobshite and as for his chosen Nazi friends thats he has as guest, a very special place in hell for all of them. Fair play to that Dominique lady though, how did they let her on?
I felt the same way. I bet Dominique won't be on again.
I love this. But you did notice the Christmas tree? Where are the current debates? What came from this conversation?
Nice way to school the whales, Sage.
I don't spend much energy worrying about what Joe's going to do, but I keep a little votive candle lit for the idea that he's treading water or going rope-a-dope until he thinks the time is strategically optimal.
I'm ready for him to come out swinging anytime...maybe he'll decide to skewer the new Mary Poppins over at the new KGB. Even better would be a reprise visit with Snowden or Bill Binney.
I haven't watched any of his recent shows (except for a few clips here & there on YT), so I'll trust your reading of what was in his eyes. I'm sure he's aware of how far The Ghouls will go to silence a voice that is a serious problem for their plans.
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Hey, by the way, have you gotten a few emails from me relatively recently that you haven't for whatever reason replied to? I was wondering about it and noticed the email you sent to put me in touch with Leslie came from a non-substack account.
If you didn't get them, let me know and I'll forward them via the Leslie email path.
If you *did* get them, let me know and I'll figure that you'll get around to answering a couple questions in them eventually.
Seriously, no rush...and forget about the thing about translating a sign in Nagoya from Kanji to English. I have a line on someone I used to work with back in Seattle who, if they can't do the xlation themselves directly, probably has a friend who can do it.
Will reply off-stack.
Excellent. How rarely this is allowed to happen!
Watch thehighwire.com May 5th episode which supports everything this young woman says and far more. It predicts the Experimental Gene Therapy injections are going to bring a Blowback from Hell over the next 1-2 years.
Well she's pretty great eh? She took a good attitude about it as well. Appropriately dismissive but calm and confident.