Socialists are NOT on the right. Yes, classical liberalism meant freedom from government and it certainly does not now, nor has it for a long time. The majority of violent attacks are not from the right. Antifa, BLM and others behind violent attacks in the US are of the left and their actions by far outnumber those from the right. Mass shootings too.
Socialists are NOT on the right. Yes, classical liberalism meant freedom from government and it certainly does not now, nor has it for a long time. The majority of violent attacks are not from the right. Antifa, BLM and others behind violent attacks in the US are of the left and their actions by far outnumber those from the right. Mass shootings too.
Well, okay. You're using the terms that are being tossed around as if they actually apply... Not by YOU, I mean tossed around by our corporate bull pucky media pretending to be "journalism." But all these terms have been undone and re-configured to further confuse the issues...It's an old game, to confuse everyone. If you think Nazis are the same as "socialists," in the true meaning of socialism, wherein the PEOPLE own the means of production (not always, but usually), that's just a false label. They called themselves "socialists," yes, they sure did, but they were fascists, pure and simple. MY way or the highway (or the gas chamber, maybe), was their basic stance. Anyway, that's the thing about tyranny, the bad guys always make up some wonderful title like "democrats" and then act like absolute fascist (authoritarian, dictatorial) jerks... Because calling themselves "authoritarians" doesn't go down that well. It's all a big game, but then people suffer, and die, so it kinda sucks!
True with the Nazis, but government control of business is not a thing of the right.
CanтАЩt see the rest of the thread, but my comments are against the statement that violence a right thing and not from the left. The nazis may not have been as far left as the Soviets, but that does not place them on the right. Unless oneтАЩs point of reference is between the two. They feared each other only due to fear that that they may lose powers to the other.
In do not have any close to hand, but there are some nice comparisons of how many died untimely deaths under leftist governments compared to rightest governments. Not even close. The numbers on the Left side of the chart are far far far higher than those on the Right. Pinochet, yes, a rightie and bad one at that. CanтАЩt hold a candle to Mao or Stalin. Not even close.
Socialists are NOT on the right. Yes, classical liberalism meant freedom from government and it certainly does not now, nor has it for a long time. The majority of violent attacks are not from the right. Antifa, BLM and others behind violent attacks in the US are of the left and their actions by far outnumber those from the right. Mass shootings too.
Well, okay. You're using the terms that are being tossed around as if they actually apply... Not by YOU, I mean tossed around by our corporate bull pucky media pretending to be "journalism." But all these terms have been undone and re-configured to further confuse the issues...It's an old game, to confuse everyone. If you think Nazis are the same as "socialists," in the true meaning of socialism, wherein the PEOPLE own the means of production (not always, but usually), that's just a false label. They called themselves "socialists," yes, they sure did, but they were fascists, pure and simple. MY way or the highway (or the gas chamber, maybe), was their basic stance. Anyway, that's the thing about tyranny, the bad guys always make up some wonderful title like "democrats" and then act like absolute fascist (authoritarian, dictatorial) jerks... Because calling themselves "authoritarians" doesn't go down that well. It's all a big game, but then people suffer, and die, so it kinda sucks!
True with the Nazis, but government control of business is not a thing of the right.
CanтАЩt see the rest of the thread, but my comments are against the statement that violence a right thing and not from the left. The nazis may not have been as far left as the Soviets, but that does not place them on the right. Unless oneтАЩs point of reference is between the two. They feared each other only due to fear that that they may lose powers to the other.
In do not have any close to hand, but there are some nice comparisons of how many died untimely deaths under leftist governments compared to rightest governments. Not even close. The numbers on the Left side of the chart are far far far higher than those on the Right. Pinochet, yes, a rightie and bad one at that. CanтАЩt hold a candle to Mao or Stalin. Not even close.