What is human nature? I believe it is whatever one is taught. Of course it changes and to think that it cannot means you sentence yourself and everyone to hopelessness and impotence. Humans made the system - well not all humans - men only as women weren't "allowed" to be educated or take part in public life. So if we now created a system…
What is human nature? I believe it is whatever one is taught. Of course it changes and to think that it cannot means you sentence yourself and everyone to hopelessness and impotence. Humans made the system - well not all humans - men only as women weren't "allowed" to be educated or take part in public life. So if we now created a system that took away that bias and was truly human, with men and women making a new system - we'd all be free. Sounds simple doesn't it? It is when we know what the problem is. We can be free by getting off this idea that someone makes decisions for us and now with digital tech, we have the tool to enable us all to be free. Here's the method - the Egalitarian Proposal System. https://deniseward.substack.com/p/the-egalitarian-proposal-system
This system cannot and will not work because of the fundamental weaknesses in human nature (sin). People would have to be pure in heart for this ever to work. We'd have to be basically sinless, and that is impossible. We don't come into this world as blank slates, waiting to be taught. We are tainted by sin from birth. Anyone who's ever had children knows this: You don't have to teach a child to disobey or misbehave, or to be selfish! It comes perfectly naturally. In addition, we each carry our own cultural and tribal viewpoints into the arena. This cannot be 'educated' out of a person. The elite N-W-0 have been trying to do this for years and would love to accomplish it thoroughly, by the way!
A central problem with the system you propose is that it's online. Most of our problems today exist because we're increasingly online and not face-to-face! (How many misunderstandings do we have even in substack forums like this, where many of us are already generally on the same page on certain issues?) In order to have a computer-based forum like that, you'd need an immense computer network and server system -- an internet. That is exactly what we have today, and the internet is increasingly centralized and controlled by bad actors. Who would build the internet of the future? Who would control it, and who or what would keep the controllers from acting in bad faith? Or do we use AI?
Ironically, people years ago were more educated than now and much more capable of making informed decisions on civic issues. This is in stark contrast to what we've been taught to believe today. We've been told, for instance, that millennials are the most educated cohort in history. And, in a sense, this is true. More millennials have a college degree than any other cohort in American history. This is perhaps the case in many other parts of the world as well. But the quality of that education is vastly eroded compared to previous generations.
If you look at simple 8th-grade exams from the 1950s (they're online), they are more difficult than what I was exposed to at that same point in life back in the early '80s. (And I'd wager my schooling was far more difficult than what students of the 2000s had to cope with.) Eighth-grade exams from 1890-1900 were even more difficult than in the 1950s and went beyond what many students are exposed to today even in college. None of the questions were multiple choice. You had to write short essays on various topics, by hand. This required an enormous level of critical thinking, something that is absent from the majority of adults today. Meanwhile, most of today's American youth cannot even pass a simple multiple-choice geography test.
I know of a person who grew up in communist Poland in the '70s and '80s. His class had memorized all of their multiplication tables up to 12 by the end of 1st grade. My father had done the same thing in the 1940s in a four-room schoolhouse out in rural Georgia! When I was in second grade, we were expected to master our times tables by the middle of 2nd grade, and then we were off to division. In contrast, my son's school hadn't even touched division in any meaningful way until the beginning of 4th grade. He hadn't been taught how to write a short, five-sentence paragraph and couldn't expound on the stories he'd read in school. We had to do tons of supplemental and remedial work to get him even to where I was at that same point in life. They don't read the classics anymore and are taught only superficial 'facts'. Even though today's youth are exposed to more information today than at any time in history, they're far less educated in the truest sense. Critical thinking skills have been diminished, and sadly, this does not bode well for the future of any kind of self-government.
You have got everything round the wrong way. Children are not born in sin, they are born in beliefs, stupid beliefs like the idea of original sin. We don't have to be perfect to do the systems I'm talking about. We only do these current systems because we have been forced to and mind controlled to. We're online now. If we didn't have this medium we wouldn't be able to communicate in real time across the earth. Going to college is not education it is indoctrination. I agree that people have been "dumbed down" over the years but it's up to us, up to our initiative to learn and construct better systems than the one that is imposed on us through institutions. And why are you citing the youth? They are not the ones who impose these systems it is people of your age and my age.
See you didn't even consider the new system not even for one nanosecond. It is no measure of education if your mind is snapped shut.
I cited the youth not to single them out or blame them, but to illustrate symptoms of what has been happening gradually over the course of at least 100 years. I agree with you that it is the people your age and my age who have helped impose this system on the youth. But in reality, it began much earlier, perhaps as early as the 1920s. Education was dumbed down because of the needs of industry. Worker bees without critical thinking skills are the ideal employees in modern large-scale industry. The kind of workforce needed for this economic setup is what the American public school system has consistently delivered. The 1950s saw a brief reversal of this trend in light of the perceived Sputnik threat, but by the '70s the quality of education once again began to erode away. I was in grade school right at that time. My parents saw the decline and talked about it. Now that industries have left the country and less meaningful employment is available, an even dumber populace is required by the elite, one that doesn't mind being idle.
I went to your link and read your treatise. I was not being close-minded. It's just that the solution you proposed doesn't reflect reality or human nature, though well-intended. You cannot create a parallel technological system, independent of the current technological system, without huge amounts of capital and infrastructure. The PTB would never allow such a system to take root and flourish anyway. There are many cool aspects to online life. I'm not sure where you live or what continent you're on, but this technology enables people like you and me to argue in real time and exchange ideas, or to critique one another, just like you said. That is a positive. But I believe the advantages of this speed and convenience are far outweighed by the negatives. People need to relate to one another face-to-face, and technology dehumanizes all of us eventually.
Regarding original sin, which is our number one problem as humans, it is not a silly or stupid concept. It is reality. People are not born basically good. The Scriptures attest to this. And if you don't believe the Scriptures, look at the long, sad state of history and ask yourself why this is so. One cannot simply blame the system, or some distant rulers. Again, you don't have to teach a person to be selfish or disobedient. It's an inborn trait from earliest childhood. Selfishness and disobedience occur despite the noblest beliefs we may have been taught by our parents or teachers. We also love to point fingers at others, but not at ourselves. God is being very kind to tell us this information because it's only in recognizing our inborn sin that the healing can even begin.
We come at things from very different places. You are mired in what you have been taught - about scripture and the normal set up of society. I see it as all wrong, all of it and want to visualize and materialize a different template. The thing is we were taught to be selfish by the system of money that was imposed on us - where more debt is issued than credit. This is all arbitrary but very deviously designed to take us from a creative mind spin to mindset of deficiency. There is never enough money to go round and this makes people anxious which is a reasonable way to respond to scarcity. But the scarcity is ARTIFICIALLY CREATED. That's why people are selfish.
I can't believe you're using scripture to prove your point that people are basically bad. That's an opinion and a filter. Not everyone sees it that way. That is the way the program has made most see it though but only because you're seeing the result and not the cause. The cause is an artificially generated scarcity.. Change the system and the psychology changes. The idea of killing our own kind - that's another thing we have to stop "honoring". We have to realize we have been contorted way out of shape due to what I say is the imbalance of positive and negative charges embodied in the masculine and the feminine. We are too far on the masculine side and thus everything is inverted and doesn't go with the flow. Frequency has been overlooked, ignored, buried as a science. Yet frequency is the most prevalent factor.
We know how we got here. Now we need to know how to get out of the labyrinth. Already without asking not even one question you have made up your mind that this can't work. Therefore you will defer to the same old/same old. And that's how you know the program is working on you. You dismiss something before even spending a moment to imagine it or savor it.
Of course everything is a choice. I don't expect everyone will understand or want to move to a different mindset, the program is very entrenched. But some will want to and that's how things start, with the first step.
Unless you can give me specific points on the points I've mentioned, nothing can progress from your critique. I cannot learn anything from it. All it tells me is that you can't let your mind visualize a better world, you won't let it.
What is human nature? I believe it is whatever one is taught. Of course it changes and to think that it cannot means you sentence yourself and everyone to hopelessness and impotence. Humans made the system - well not all humans - men only as women weren't "allowed" to be educated or take part in public life. So if we now created a system that took away that bias and was truly human, with men and women making a new system - we'd all be free. Sounds simple doesn't it? It is when we know what the problem is. We can be free by getting off this idea that someone makes decisions for us and now with digital tech, we have the tool to enable us all to be free. Here's the method - the Egalitarian Proposal System. https://deniseward.substack.com/p/the-egalitarian-proposal-system
This system cannot and will not work because of the fundamental weaknesses in human nature (sin). People would have to be pure in heart for this ever to work. We'd have to be basically sinless, and that is impossible. We don't come into this world as blank slates, waiting to be taught. We are tainted by sin from birth. Anyone who's ever had children knows this: You don't have to teach a child to disobey or misbehave, or to be selfish! It comes perfectly naturally. In addition, we each carry our own cultural and tribal viewpoints into the arena. This cannot be 'educated' out of a person. The elite N-W-0 have been trying to do this for years and would love to accomplish it thoroughly, by the way!
A central problem with the system you propose is that it's online. Most of our problems today exist because we're increasingly online and not face-to-face! (How many misunderstandings do we have even in substack forums like this, where many of us are already generally on the same page on certain issues?) In order to have a computer-based forum like that, you'd need an immense computer network and server system -- an internet. That is exactly what we have today, and the internet is increasingly centralized and controlled by bad actors. Who would build the internet of the future? Who would control it, and who or what would keep the controllers from acting in bad faith? Or do we use AI?
Ironically, people years ago were more educated than now and much more capable of making informed decisions on civic issues. This is in stark contrast to what we've been taught to believe today. We've been told, for instance, that millennials are the most educated cohort in history. And, in a sense, this is true. More millennials have a college degree than any other cohort in American history. This is perhaps the case in many other parts of the world as well. But the quality of that education is vastly eroded compared to previous generations.
If you look at simple 8th-grade exams from the 1950s (they're online), they are more difficult than what I was exposed to at that same point in life back in the early '80s. (And I'd wager my schooling was far more difficult than what students of the 2000s had to cope with.) Eighth-grade exams from 1890-1900 were even more difficult than in the 1950s and went beyond what many students are exposed to today even in college. None of the questions were multiple choice. You had to write short essays on various topics, by hand. This required an enormous level of critical thinking, something that is absent from the majority of adults today. Meanwhile, most of today's American youth cannot even pass a simple multiple-choice geography test.
I know of a person who grew up in communist Poland in the '70s and '80s. His class had memorized all of their multiplication tables up to 12 by the end of 1st grade. My father had done the same thing in the 1940s in a four-room schoolhouse out in rural Georgia! When I was in second grade, we were expected to master our times tables by the middle of 2nd grade, and then we were off to division. In contrast, my son's school hadn't even touched division in any meaningful way until the beginning of 4th grade. He hadn't been taught how to write a short, five-sentence paragraph and couldn't expound on the stories he'd read in school. We had to do tons of supplemental and remedial work to get him even to where I was at that same point in life. They don't read the classics anymore and are taught only superficial 'facts'. Even though today's youth are exposed to more information today than at any time in history, they're far less educated in the truest sense. Critical thinking skills have been diminished, and sadly, this does not bode well for the future of any kind of self-government.
You have got everything round the wrong way. Children are not born in sin, they are born in beliefs, stupid beliefs like the idea of original sin. We don't have to be perfect to do the systems I'm talking about. We only do these current systems because we have been forced to and mind controlled to. We're online now. If we didn't have this medium we wouldn't be able to communicate in real time across the earth. Going to college is not education it is indoctrination. I agree that people have been "dumbed down" over the years but it's up to us, up to our initiative to learn and construct better systems than the one that is imposed on us through institutions. And why are you citing the youth? They are not the ones who impose these systems it is people of your age and my age.
See you didn't even consider the new system not even for one nanosecond. It is no measure of education if your mind is snapped shut.
I cited the youth not to single them out or blame them, but to illustrate symptoms of what has been happening gradually over the course of at least 100 years. I agree with you that it is the people your age and my age who have helped impose this system on the youth. But in reality, it began much earlier, perhaps as early as the 1920s. Education was dumbed down because of the needs of industry. Worker bees without critical thinking skills are the ideal employees in modern large-scale industry. The kind of workforce needed for this economic setup is what the American public school system has consistently delivered. The 1950s saw a brief reversal of this trend in light of the perceived Sputnik threat, but by the '70s the quality of education once again began to erode away. I was in grade school right at that time. My parents saw the decline and talked about it. Now that industries have left the country and less meaningful employment is available, an even dumber populace is required by the elite, one that doesn't mind being idle.
I went to your link and read your treatise. I was not being close-minded. It's just that the solution you proposed doesn't reflect reality or human nature, though well-intended. You cannot create a parallel technological system, independent of the current technological system, without huge amounts of capital and infrastructure. The PTB would never allow such a system to take root and flourish anyway. There are many cool aspects to online life. I'm not sure where you live or what continent you're on, but this technology enables people like you and me to argue in real time and exchange ideas, or to critique one another, just like you said. That is a positive. But I believe the advantages of this speed and convenience are far outweighed by the negatives. People need to relate to one another face-to-face, and technology dehumanizes all of us eventually.
Regarding original sin, which is our number one problem as humans, it is not a silly or stupid concept. It is reality. People are not born basically good. The Scriptures attest to this. And if you don't believe the Scriptures, look at the long, sad state of history and ask yourself why this is so. One cannot simply blame the system, or some distant rulers. Again, you don't have to teach a person to be selfish or disobedient. It's an inborn trait from earliest childhood. Selfishness and disobedience occur despite the noblest beliefs we may have been taught by our parents or teachers. We also love to point fingers at others, but not at ourselves. God is being very kind to tell us this information because it's only in recognizing our inborn sin that the healing can even begin.
We come at things from very different places. You are mired in what you have been taught - about scripture and the normal set up of society. I see it as all wrong, all of it and want to visualize and materialize a different template. The thing is we were taught to be selfish by the system of money that was imposed on us - where more debt is issued than credit. This is all arbitrary but very deviously designed to take us from a creative mind spin to mindset of deficiency. There is never enough money to go round and this makes people anxious which is a reasonable way to respond to scarcity. But the scarcity is ARTIFICIALLY CREATED. That's why people are selfish.
I can't believe you're using scripture to prove your point that people are basically bad. That's an opinion and a filter. Not everyone sees it that way. That is the way the program has made most see it though but only because you're seeing the result and not the cause. The cause is an artificially generated scarcity.. Change the system and the psychology changes. The idea of killing our own kind - that's another thing we have to stop "honoring". We have to realize we have been contorted way out of shape due to what I say is the imbalance of positive and negative charges embodied in the masculine and the feminine. We are too far on the masculine side and thus everything is inverted and doesn't go with the flow. Frequency has been overlooked, ignored, buried as a science. Yet frequency is the most prevalent factor.
We know how we got here. Now we need to know how to get out of the labyrinth. Already without asking not even one question you have made up your mind that this can't work. Therefore you will defer to the same old/same old. And that's how you know the program is working on you. You dismiss something before even spending a moment to imagine it or savor it.
Of course everything is a choice. I don't expect everyone will understand or want to move to a different mindset, the program is very entrenched. But some will want to and that's how things start, with the first step.
Unless you can give me specific points on the points I've mentioned, nothing can progress from your critique. I cannot learn anything from it. All it tells me is that you can't let your mind visualize a better world, you won't let it.