On the needle and the damage done—by rockers like Mick Jagger (and "Sir Paul" McCartney, Neil Young, Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Smith, Dave Crosby, and SO many more)
On the needle and the damage done—by rockers like Mick Jagger (and "Sir Paul" McCartney, Neil Young, Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Smith, Dave Crosby, and SO many more)
It is truly horrific how Dave Grohl and Mick Jagger collaborated in this heinous fiendish way. So well said about all these former icons Mark. I do believe you're right about Jimi Hendrix 💕. I heard in an Eric Clapton interview that he said even his daughters ostracized him for not getting more injections. Van Morrison is a stand-up guy all the way. One of the few left from the "old school. ". As are you. Let's hope the up-and-coming generation wakes up and has their own great awakening. 🙌
I loved U2, Ed Sheeran and Elton John. I went to Eltons concert in Dunedin the last one he did before canceling the test of his shows. I really feel these people have let us down terribly. I don't enjoy their music anymore, just like I don't enjoy Michael Jackson's music. There actions have put me off them completely.
The only one that really hurt me was Patti Smith. She was sort of an idol of mine in the late 70s. The rest of them (BONO has always been a shill for the latest ruling class bait & switch), who cares. But Patti. sigh.
And Bono is talking about vaccines everywhere to stop the pandemic now???? Where has he been while all the vaxxed were getting covid? Definitely they work for evil forces. Cannot be so stupid?
Foo Fighters used to be in my top 5 and Rage in my top 3. Now neither gets even a thought from me. I find it a bit sad, a bit melancholic, more than anything else. It's disappointing to experience the fissure that splits a person into an artist you love as well as a troglodyte you loathe.
The other, surreal oddness to it is that this entire stance by these artists is fucking bizarre. It runs counter to any concept of artistry, rebellion, and independence. I cannot for a second convince myself that all of them have ALWAYS been secret operatives.
No, they're just really, really stupid. They just needed to follow the rules for rock star success:
1. Never take a public stance on ANYTHING remotely political or controversial unless it is generically attacking the 'man', the 'system', or 'mean people'.
2. If you do make the idiotic moe of violating #1, please try to take a stand against people who are mean to animals or kids. Do NOT, ever, take the position of defending and taking talking points from ginormous multinational corporations with reputations for graft and moral bankruptcy.
3. Don't talk about shit you don't understand. If you are a rock star, the statistical probability that you are also good at math, science, or reading above a third-grade level is about the same as the chance that the Double Mint Twins are coming to my place tonight.
4. Play music and shut the fuck up. No one cares what you THINK. About anything.
Fortunately, I'd already written off many of these artists as megapricks (Crosby, Bono, Springsteen), but others have massively disappointed me (Grohl, Offspring). On the bright side, two huge faves of mine (Clapton and Van Morrison) now have my eternal support, and a sleeper (Minaj) is the shit as far as I'm concerned.
I feel your disappointment. One of my all time fav bands is Grateful Dead. The remaining members too have fallen for this government control!! Can you believe it! I think of the song throwing stones. Boy. I went to see over 100 shows. Think of my anger when I purchased tickets to playin in the sand in Mexico. It was over $7000 and before I purchased I inquired as to whether or not there would be any kind of vaccine mandate because I knew I was not getting one. I was told that it was not a requirement to purchase. Of course after I pay the whole freakin thing off (took 6 months) I get an email stating that I must have a vaccination In Order to attend and no refunds will be given!!! I won’t bore you with the fight that ensued but I will tell you that when I contacted the entertainment company who sponsored this event( their name escapes me now) I was told it was the band members who decided on this policy not them!!! I’m still angry and I will never go see dead and co or Bob Weir again. I fought for my refund! I finally got it but was told not to tell anyone🤣🤣 funny thing is the band had to cancel both weekends because the all vaxxed up members., Well one of them got covid!! Karma!! People were already in Mexico when they announced the cancel. Wonder how long it took all of them to get their money back.
Anyway. I’ve stopped going to any concerts where masking or shots are required!! Done!!
I personally will hold all these artists responsible for being a part of this great slaughter. Genocide!! How dare all these people push their weight around and use their fame and status to coerce people into to getting these death shots!! These very artists who screamed to not trust the governments back in the day! Oh the irony. Makes me sick!
The way so many great musicians swallowed the official bullshit is so disheartening ...
Also, drummer Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead / Dead & Company had heart problems beginning in the fall of 2021. I didn't find anything online about him pushing the "vaccine", but some of Dead & Co shows were proof of "vax" only.
But his tweet from January explains why drummers of all ages are dying - Sudden Drummer Special Heartbeat Syndrome.
Bill Kreutzmann
@BKreutzmann
ordering me to sit this one out.
As many of you know, I had some health issues this past fall. After a lifetime of playing special beats, it’s almost no wonder that my heart came up with its own idea of rhythm. All jokes aside, my doctor has ordered me to take it easy...
It's hard for me to identify with any of the musicians and singers you list. Despite my age (I'm 77, for reference), I simply never identified with any of them. Their tunes were inescapable, of course, but for me it was a lot like of a nearby highway, something to be put up with nowadays. I always figured they did what they did for the dough, end of story. Of course, I could have been wrong, but even when I agreed with some public position they seemed to espouse, their espousal always seemed principally acquisitive to me, self-serving in some way or another. (I think I'd have been happier, perhaps, had I been born in some other era, one a lot quieter.) So I am not surprised that the lot of them has sold out to Big Pharma and Goosestepping Government or to the campaign of Greta Horrifiedbyeverything and those who listen politely and appreciatively to her beastly hysterics. Most famous people today, I think, are neither as bright as PR makes them seem nor as substantive as they like to pretend.
Mark 🙏 for this necessary critique. On every point you’ve made, you are correct in your assessment. Like yourself, I have long been a huge fan of so many of the people you name-checked in this post. And like yourself, I’ve been sorely disappointed by the general response to the whole Covid thing from so many of the great music icons. Indeed, so much so, I have been thinking of penning my own analysis along the lines you’ve done here. (Your post may serve to inspire me to get my arse into gear. I’d even discussed doing so with others who share my own feelings. In a recent interview I did with Rick Munn on TNT Radio, we touched on this topic.)
In fact so dismayed have I been at these people and their complicity in supporting the Covid agenda, I don’t even listen to their music in quite the same way anymore. The respect thing has been sadly diminished. And it’s not just Covid either that has caused me to question the bona fides of some of my fave musos and performers.
Another topic/subject that is a frequent touchstone for myself as a writer is Israel. I’ve always admired Roger Waters and Brian Eno’s stand on the Israel thing (to name just two), yet I’m given to understand even they have bought into the Covid narrative. Overall, apart from Clapton and Van the Man and a few others (like the drummer from INXS), music biz dissidents have been thin on the ground.
On a slightly different note, I just watched two excellent documentary films—one on Frank Zappa and the other on Fabbo Johnny (aka John Lennon), both artists who were not shy when it came to airing political dissent. Whilst watching these dokos, one of the questions I kept asking myself was this: I wonder what both of these chaps would have to say about what’s happening now. And not just with Covid. Thanks again.
You *know* the govt paid these rockers to pimp the Covid shot things.
If 22-year-old Tik-Tokers were being offered thousands to pimp the shots (which several have said), wouldn’t it behoove our leaders to break off a few $M to Mick, Keith & the gang?
I know in my gut Krispie Kreme, Shake Shack, Six Flags and all those other businesses did not just take the hit in the wallet while giving out all those free donuts, fries, season passes, beer, joints & lap dances to those who’d show their Covid shot cards. Maybe it came in the form of a “consultancy fee” payment to the businesses that agreed to play the game. That’s how Pharna buys off many of our physicians anyway.
First we heard the govt was allocating $1B to market the Covid shot things. Then, out if the next $10B Congress allocated in the 2nd Covid-related bill, we were told another $2.5B would be used to keep marketing the shots. Exactly how was that money spent?
Having worked in news for decades, I asked old journalist friends if they wanted to look into this. One had already filed a FOIA request to find out how specifically that money was spent, but told me the DoJ had already told her station, because we were “in an emergency,” the govt didn’t have to disclose that information. $3.5 B of your money… & it’s none of your business what it was spent on or who ended up with it?
My guess is colleges & public school systems were “incentivized” with govt payments, if they too would play ball & require or strongly encourage their students to get the things. I had to block texts from our local school systems bc the “encouragement” text messages, emails & calls to get Vaxxed we’re incessant! The school system even claimed the shots were FDA “APPROVED” in one of the emails, while all the products were still definitely on the market via Emergency Use Authorization— not the same thing!
The globalists think we are fools, & based upon some of what I’m seeing, I’m thinking they’re correct, partially.
Some of us have learned the hard way the true nature of Pharma’s “science”/marketing. I sure did. Linked is my story which shows how my trying to figure out what had just destroyed my life caused me to finally see all the blatant scientific fraud, deception & marketing behind Pharma’s unsafe, barely tested toxic crap being marketed as “safe & effective,” which is neither a scientific nor legally defined phrase, which is why people trying to deceive us use it. It’s amorphous, vague. Blatant obfuscation.
Soon everyone will know dozens if not hundreds of people, disabled, broke, suffering and/or dead all because of this industry. The people at the top of these companies are masters of marketing. That much we know, and marketers love to hire famous people as their spokespeople.
unless mick got a placebo, he doesn't have much time left. hard to believe that crosby is still with us, considering the liver transplant, let alone the jab.
what's funny is how so few of the dinosaur rockers are emulating van morrison's recent resurgence. i'll bet he's more popular than he's ever been. - at 77!
Great heartfelt post Mark. Im so curious about all this. I worked for a long time in a place where I got to meet many rockers right before they clicked, and most of them were nice, of average intelligence, some goofy, but all of them mega supremely musically talented. One household name (2 years before THE album) was so damn nice that I was worried he was gonna get mugged outside, but he was like any other stoner (I don't smoke weed but look like I do) who wanted a bong hit and said very dumb things, I talked to him for 30 minutes only cuz his voice, to me, rivaled Jim Morrison as my fave of all time. I'm not super intelligent but I think I can read a room with the best of them, and something told me early on to not take the vaccine cuz something felt off, the Princess Cruise numbers, the speed with which they had 3 vaccines, the hysteria, etc. But my wife, very smart, was cowed by the legacy media (whereas they are my south star, I grew up in Manhattan, and knew enough of them to know how sweaty they are) Im not defending the rockers you mention, most of them are so treacly when they start in, but I'm beginning to think it's not just mass formation hypnosis. Former very good friends are so damn scared, and they are not posing. My two teen daughters instantly said no vaccines, w/o a word from me (oh it was gonna come if they didn't get there first) and now of course they are seeing and hearing the stories, whereas my brainwashed friends continue to push boosters... and Im flummoxed. One of the friends I mention is a music star, and he is being genuine when he says he only believes legacy media, and not me. Again, maybe some of these rockers believe what they're saying. Btw, I played Miss You a billion times but that singer dude left me cold from the beginning. But Springsteen on the other hand...
The spirit of Rock and Roll died a while back, killed by conformity.
It is truly horrific how Dave Grohl and Mick Jagger collaborated in this heinous fiendish way. So well said about all these former icons Mark. I do believe you're right about Jimi Hendrix 💕. I heard in an Eric Clapton interview that he said even his daughters ostracized him for not getting more injections. Van Morrison is a stand-up guy all the way. One of the few left from the "old school. ". As are you. Let's hope the up-and-coming generation wakes up and has their own great awakening. 🙌
It's a good thing we have other musicians trying to raise awareness. Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, Muse, The Flobots, and Tom MacDonald.
Van Morrison - Fighting back is the new normal: https://youtu.be/nojn1bRcLOQ
The Flobots - There's a war going on for your mind: https://youtu.be/4Ne0DmiuHeg
Tom MacDonald - Brainwashed: https://youtu.be/a4KbAx1SoU4
I loved U2, Ed Sheeran and Elton John. I went to Eltons concert in Dunedin the last one he did before canceling the test of his shows. I really feel these people have let us down terribly. I don't enjoy their music anymore, just like I don't enjoy Michael Jackson's music. There actions have put me off them completely.
The only one that really hurt me was Patti Smith. She was sort of an idol of mine in the late 70s. The rest of them (BONO has always been a shill for the latest ruling class bait & switch), who cares. But Patti. sigh.
And Bono is talking about vaccines everywhere to stop the pandemic now???? Where has he been while all the vaxxed were getting covid? Definitely they work for evil forces. Cannot be so stupid?
The tragedy is they actually “believe” they are doing a good thing!
Foo Fighters used to be in my top 5 and Rage in my top 3. Now neither gets even a thought from me. I find it a bit sad, a bit melancholic, more than anything else. It's disappointing to experience the fissure that splits a person into an artist you love as well as a troglodyte you loathe.
The other, surreal oddness to it is that this entire stance by these artists is fucking bizarre. It runs counter to any concept of artistry, rebellion, and independence. I cannot for a second convince myself that all of them have ALWAYS been secret operatives.
No, they're just really, really stupid. They just needed to follow the rules for rock star success:
1. Never take a public stance on ANYTHING remotely political or controversial unless it is generically attacking the 'man', the 'system', or 'mean people'.
2. If you do make the idiotic moe of violating #1, please try to take a stand against people who are mean to animals or kids. Do NOT, ever, take the position of defending and taking talking points from ginormous multinational corporations with reputations for graft and moral bankruptcy.
3. Don't talk about shit you don't understand. If you are a rock star, the statistical probability that you are also good at math, science, or reading above a third-grade level is about the same as the chance that the Double Mint Twins are coming to my place tonight.
4. Play music and shut the fuck up. No one cares what you THINK. About anything.
Fortunately, I'd already written off many of these artists as megapricks (Crosby, Bono, Springsteen), but others have massively disappointed me (Grohl, Offspring). On the bright side, two huge faves of mine (Clapton and Van Morrison) now have my eternal support, and a sleeper (Minaj) is the shit as far as I'm concerned.
I feel your disappointment. One of my all time fav bands is Grateful Dead. The remaining members too have fallen for this government control!! Can you believe it! I think of the song throwing stones. Boy. I went to see over 100 shows. Think of my anger when I purchased tickets to playin in the sand in Mexico. It was over $7000 and before I purchased I inquired as to whether or not there would be any kind of vaccine mandate because I knew I was not getting one. I was told that it was not a requirement to purchase. Of course after I pay the whole freakin thing off (took 6 months) I get an email stating that I must have a vaccination In Order to attend and no refunds will be given!!! I won’t bore you with the fight that ensued but I will tell you that when I contacted the entertainment company who sponsored this event( their name escapes me now) I was told it was the band members who decided on this policy not them!!! I’m still angry and I will never go see dead and co or Bob Weir again. I fought for my refund! I finally got it but was told not to tell anyone🤣🤣 funny thing is the band had to cancel both weekends because the all vaxxed up members., Well one of them got covid!! Karma!! People were already in Mexico when they announced the cancel. Wonder how long it took all of them to get their money back.
Anyway. I’ve stopped going to any concerts where masking or shots are required!! Done!!
I personally will hold all these artists responsible for being a part of this great slaughter. Genocide!! How dare all these people push their weight around and use their fame and status to coerce people into to getting these death shots!! These very artists who screamed to not trust the governments back in the day! Oh the irony. Makes me sick!
The way so many great musicians swallowed the official bullshit is so disheartening ...
Also, drummer Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead / Dead & Company had heart problems beginning in the fall of 2021. I didn't find anything online about him pushing the "vaccine", but some of Dead & Co shows were proof of "vax" only.
But his tweet from January explains why drummers of all ages are dying - Sudden Drummer Special Heartbeat Syndrome.
Bill Kreutzmann
@BKreutzmann
ordering me to sit this one out.
As many of you know, I had some health issues this past fall. After a lifetime of playing special beats, it’s almost no wonder that my heart came up with its own idea of rhythm. All jokes aside, my doctor has ordered me to take it easy...
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2:28 PM · Jan 3, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/BKreutzmann/status/1478085873963094022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I've been experiencing similar... disappointment shall we say? Heart-ache, or break closer to it.
The Covidians out pushing the jab - artists of all kinds included - have ruined the pleasure of some music and movies for me. The spell is powerful.
Lame excuses coming... I don't want to hear them.
It's hard for me to identify with any of the musicians and singers you list. Despite my age (I'm 77, for reference), I simply never identified with any of them. Their tunes were inescapable, of course, but for me it was a lot like of a nearby highway, something to be put up with nowadays. I always figured they did what they did for the dough, end of story. Of course, I could have been wrong, but even when I agreed with some public position they seemed to espouse, their espousal always seemed principally acquisitive to me, self-serving in some way or another. (I think I'd have been happier, perhaps, had I been born in some other era, one a lot quieter.) So I am not surprised that the lot of them has sold out to Big Pharma and Goosestepping Government or to the campaign of Greta Horrifiedbyeverything and those who listen politely and appreciatively to her beastly hysterics. Most famous people today, I think, are neither as bright as PR makes them seem nor as substantive as they like to pretend.
Mark 🙏 for this necessary critique. On every point you’ve made, you are correct in your assessment. Like yourself, I have long been a huge fan of so many of the people you name-checked in this post. And like yourself, I’ve been sorely disappointed by the general response to the whole Covid thing from so many of the great music icons. Indeed, so much so, I have been thinking of penning my own analysis along the lines you’ve done here. (Your post may serve to inspire me to get my arse into gear. I’d even discussed doing so with others who share my own feelings. In a recent interview I did with Rick Munn on TNT Radio, we touched on this topic.)
In fact so dismayed have I been at these people and their complicity in supporting the Covid agenda, I don’t even listen to their music in quite the same way anymore. The respect thing has been sadly diminished. And it’s not just Covid either that has caused me to question the bona fides of some of my fave musos and performers.
Another topic/subject that is a frequent touchstone for myself as a writer is Israel. I’ve always admired Roger Waters and Brian Eno’s stand on the Israel thing (to name just two), yet I’m given to understand even they have bought into the Covid narrative. Overall, apart from Clapton and Van the Man and a few others (like the drummer from INXS), music biz dissidents have been thin on the ground.
On a slightly different note, I just watched two excellent documentary films—one on Frank Zappa and the other on Fabbo Johnny (aka John Lennon), both artists who were not shy when it came to airing political dissent. Whilst watching these dokos, one of the questions I kept asking myself was this: I wonder what both of these chaps would have to say about what’s happening now. And not just with Covid. Thanks again.
You *know* the govt paid these rockers to pimp the Covid shot things.
If 22-year-old Tik-Tokers were being offered thousands to pimp the shots (which several have said), wouldn’t it behoove our leaders to break off a few $M to Mick, Keith & the gang?
I know in my gut Krispie Kreme, Shake Shack, Six Flags and all those other businesses did not just take the hit in the wallet while giving out all those free donuts, fries, season passes, beer, joints & lap dances to those who’d show their Covid shot cards. Maybe it came in the form of a “consultancy fee” payment to the businesses that agreed to play the game. That’s how Pharna buys off many of our physicians anyway.
First we heard the govt was allocating $1B to market the Covid shot things. Then, out if the next $10B Congress allocated in the 2nd Covid-related bill, we were told another $2.5B would be used to keep marketing the shots. Exactly how was that money spent?
Having worked in news for decades, I asked old journalist friends if they wanted to look into this. One had already filed a FOIA request to find out how specifically that money was spent, but told me the DoJ had already told her station, because we were “in an emergency,” the govt didn’t have to disclose that information. $3.5 B of your money… & it’s none of your business what it was spent on or who ended up with it?
My guess is colleges & public school systems were “incentivized” with govt payments, if they too would play ball & require or strongly encourage their students to get the things. I had to block texts from our local school systems bc the “encouragement” text messages, emails & calls to get Vaxxed we’re incessant! The school system even claimed the shots were FDA “APPROVED” in one of the emails, while all the products were still definitely on the market via Emergency Use Authorization— not the same thing!
The globalists think we are fools, & based upon some of what I’m seeing, I’m thinking they’re correct, partially.
Some of us have learned the hard way the true nature of Pharma’s “science”/marketing. I sure did. Linked is my story which shows how my trying to figure out what had just destroyed my life caused me to finally see all the blatant scientific fraud, deception & marketing behind Pharma’s unsafe, barely tested toxic crap being marketed as “safe & effective,” which is neither a scientific nor legally defined phrase, which is why people trying to deceive us use it. It’s amorphous, vague. Blatant obfuscation.
Soon everyone will know dozens if not hundreds of people, disabled, broke, suffering and/or dead all because of this industry. The people at the top of these companies are masters of marketing. That much we know, and marketers love to hire famous people as their spokespeople.
https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/medical-device-dangers/fda-does-not-test-most-devices-implanted-in-humans-and-many-are-paying-for-it/269-c41ad14d-031f-4166-a18b-4361e8e22cfd
unless mick got a placebo, he doesn't have much time left. hard to believe that crosby is still with us, considering the liver transplant, let alone the jab.
what's funny is how so few of the dinosaur rockers are emulating van morrison's recent resurgence. i'll bet he's more popular than he's ever been. - at 77!
Great heartfelt post Mark. Im so curious about all this. I worked for a long time in a place where I got to meet many rockers right before they clicked, and most of them were nice, of average intelligence, some goofy, but all of them mega supremely musically talented. One household name (2 years before THE album) was so damn nice that I was worried he was gonna get mugged outside, but he was like any other stoner (I don't smoke weed but look like I do) who wanted a bong hit and said very dumb things, I talked to him for 30 minutes only cuz his voice, to me, rivaled Jim Morrison as my fave of all time. I'm not super intelligent but I think I can read a room with the best of them, and something told me early on to not take the vaccine cuz something felt off, the Princess Cruise numbers, the speed with which they had 3 vaccines, the hysteria, etc. But my wife, very smart, was cowed by the legacy media (whereas they are my south star, I grew up in Manhattan, and knew enough of them to know how sweaty they are) Im not defending the rockers you mention, most of them are so treacly when they start in, but I'm beginning to think it's not just mass formation hypnosis. Former very good friends are so damn scared, and they are not posing. My two teen daughters instantly said no vaccines, w/o a word from me (oh it was gonna come if they didn't get there first) and now of course they are seeing and hearing the stories, whereas my brainwashed friends continue to push boosters... and Im flummoxed. One of the friends I mention is a music star, and he is being genuine when he says he only believes legacy media, and not me. Again, maybe some of these rockers believe what they're saying. Btw, I played Miss You a billion times but that singer dude left me cold from the beginning. But Springsteen on the other hand...