On the needle and the damage done—by rockers like Mick Jagger (and "Sir Paul" McCartney, Neil Young, Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Smith, Dave Crosby, and SO many more)
On the needle and the damage done—by rockers like Mick Jagger (and "Sir Paul" McCartney, Neil Young, Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Smith, Dave Crosby, and SO many more)
Doesn’t it crack everyone up how people who, in the 60s/70s, were protesting war and bucking the system in numerous ways are now saying we all need to shut up and do what we’re told, whether take drugs, support war or whatever? Politically I’m pretty much an agnostic now, but the reality of life in Wacky World these days still makes me gasp from time to time.
Mick Jagger: “Take your shot, you stupid antiVaxxer.” Wait. What?
The Stones only source of funding has been Stadium tours for 40 or 50 years. Their albums were mostly flops which is how they got stuck in this grind.
So the 12 or 13 million they earn a year via their Dutch company is the only money coming in (because Klein basically stole their catalogue there's no royalties or very few coming in). So for the last 2 years as you can imagine they must have all been living off of previous capital. Or loans.
i'll mention one of my favorite big mouths, Dave Mustaine of Megadeth. Over the years he has expounded on issues that made me say, "Mustaine! WTF!" but I've been pleased to note has lips have been a-flappin' re Cov BS: Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine slams COVID-19 restrictions during concert: 'This is called tyranny'
It is truly horrific how Dave Grohl and Mick Jagger collaborated in this heinous fiendish way. So well said about all these former icons Mark. I do believe you're right about Jimi Hendrix 💕. I heard in an Eric Clapton interview that he said even his daughters ostracized him for not getting more injections. Van Morrison is a stand-up guy all the way. One of the few left from the "old school. ". As are you. Let's hope the up-and-coming generation wakes up and has their own great awakening. 🙌
I have been a gigantic fan of Van Morrison for a half a century. But in the last two years, he has become a full-on hero for me. Talk about courage and integrity.
Or perhaps they all have early onset dementia. And if you're not buying that excuse, then it's probably back to the mass formation issue.😷💉🤕. One thing is for sure, they are not well. Wheather that's a spiritual, emotional or mental health issue, or combination thereof, is a question I cannot answer definitively. But each one has been afflicted with something to various degrees.
yea. I was cheering though I don’t know her music. She was responding to her MET Gala invite which required Covid shots. She said she had concerns after a cousin had serious adverse events after getting his shots and, even if she ever did decide to get it, it wouldn’t be so she could attend some MET Gala.
Poor Wendy Williams. Initially strongly against the shots. Said she wouldn’t get it. Maybe the thought of losing her show got the best of her. She did get vaccinated. Granted she had chronic health issues prior to this period, but her health tanked massively after taking “dah trrrrreatment,” and she could no longer work… for months. I don’t know if she’s recovered. Last I saw was a picture of her in a wheelchair. Sad, whether caused by these shots or not.
I loved U2, Ed Sheeran and Elton John. I went to Eltons concert in Dunedin the last one he did before canceling the test of his shows. I really feel these people have let us down terribly. I don't enjoy their music anymore, just like I don't enjoy Michael Jackson's music. There actions have put me off them completely.
The only one that really hurt me was Patti Smith. She was sort of an idol of mine in the late 70s. The rest of them (BONO has always been a shill for the latest ruling class bait & switch), who cares. But Patti. sigh.
I hear that. I liked U2 waaaay back there, but Bono ruined it fairly early on. I saw them in Austin on their very first visit to the USA, and even then, Bono was all about himself... NO sense of humor visible. Well, there ya go. Sad. But Patti? wtf.
I'm not kidding about this: I used to have like, maybe a couple hundred "good friends" from over the years... Nearly ALL of them now refuse to talk to me. So I'm not at all surprised that these musicians are also in that mindf*ck of the Fear... It's just one big bizarre time for everyone. I'm resigned to just trying to live, and hopefully I can get a few people on their feet sometime soon. The thing that works is MASSIVE peaceful demonstrations of civil disobedience. I want to see us out in the streets, in vast numbers, and dancing our protest, thumbing our noses at the Evil Ones.
And Bono is talking about vaccines everywhere to stop the pandemic now???? Where has he been while all the vaxxed were getting covid? Definitely they work for evil forces. Cannot be so stupid?
I agree with shasta. It's evil. There is now, and always has been, only one war going on in the world. Its between the Light and the Dark. Every conflict a mere battle. All are connected.
I don’t thing so. They know the vax is shit and they want to put two (two, Lol) in the arms of people that live in countries were covid is non existent.
I see. They are getting it too. Good point. They are very stupid then. But why make those videos? I mean, you get covid, recover and bye bye. You don’t make a video or Twitt “I am thankful for the shot”. That is blatant propaganda.
Might not be a "stupid" thing, might just be a ZOMBIE thing. I've seen this in MANY of my friends who used to be intelligent, educated, lovely people. Go fig.
Maybe some of them. But I know not all. This is a reaction to being terrorized, this "Mass Formation Psychosis." How do I know this? Because as I said, I have a LOT of "former" friends who were never evil, I know these people really well, for years, decades, and that they are now EVIL seems a bit much.
Spooky, yes. Stunned bafflement and terror... But... I saw somewhere some rough estimates for people and mindsets... it may have been just the US, but something like 30% of people are bedeviled, shall we say... the MFP (Mass Formation Psychosis) ate their brains... That's maybe a third of everyone, maybe. Then there's those of us who are steadfastly aware, that's something like 40%, and then about 30% who are on the fence... I THINK I'm remembering those numbers correctly, but then it's only an estimation. So, if there's something to those numbers, it means there's a sizable MINORITY of Zombies... And if there's another THIRD of us that can be freed from the brainfrack, that's a BIG MAJORITY, 70%... And we don't need nearly that many people to get HUGE crowds into the street. We need a starter-upper, and people will join.
What will push everyone in the Fence-sitters group into being Aware? Hmmm, let's think... maybe no food? Maybe no money? Maybe the rest of us SHOUTING OUR HEADS OFF? IRL, in the streets, and not just on a website, where it's mostly us types on it, all shouting to EACH OTHER, as if we don't already know? I'm not saying it's not great to have Substack, but I've seen definite signs here of infiltration with the intention of causing division...
I just think it's high time for some real protest, LIKE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, Americans! When I go walking I practice the chants: SHOW ME WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!! (THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!) and SHOW ME HOW WE DO IT!! (THIS IS HOW WE DO IT!!)
Doesn't it make you wanna get up and get out there? I DO.
Foo Fighters used to be in my top 5 and Rage in my top 3. Now neither gets even a thought from me. I find it a bit sad, a bit melancholic, more than anything else. It's disappointing to experience the fissure that splits a person into an artist you love as well as a troglodyte you loathe.
The other, surreal oddness to it is that this entire stance by these artists is fucking bizarre. It runs counter to any concept of artistry, rebellion, and independence. I cannot for a second convince myself that all of them have ALWAYS been secret operatives.
No, they're just really, really stupid. They just needed to follow the rules for rock star success:
1. Never take a public stance on ANYTHING remotely political or controversial unless it is generically attacking the 'man', the 'system', or 'mean people'.
2. If you do make the idiotic moe of violating #1, please try to take a stand against people who are mean to animals or kids. Do NOT, ever, take the position of defending and taking talking points from ginormous multinational corporations with reputations for graft and moral bankruptcy.
3. Don't talk about shit you don't understand. If you are a rock star, the statistical probability that you are also good at math, science, or reading above a third-grade level is about the same as the chance that the Double Mint Twins are coming to my place tonight.
4. Play music and shut the fuck up. No one cares what you THINK. About anything.
Fortunately, I'd already written off many of these artists as megapricks (Crosby, Bono, Springsteen), but others have massively disappointed me (Grohl, Offspring). On the bright side, two huge faves of mine (Clapton and Van Morrison) now have my eternal support, and a sleeper (Minaj) is the shit as far as I'm concerned.
I feel your disappointment. One of my all time fav bands is Grateful Dead. The remaining members too have fallen for this government control!! Can you believe it! I think of the song throwing stones. Boy. I went to see over 100 shows. Think of my anger when I purchased tickets to playin in the sand in Mexico. It was over $7000 and before I purchased I inquired as to whether or not there would be any kind of vaccine mandate because I knew I was not getting one. I was told that it was not a requirement to purchase. Of course after I pay the whole freakin thing off (took 6 months) I get an email stating that I must have a vaccination In Order to attend and no refunds will be given!!! I won’t bore you with the fight that ensued but I will tell you that when I contacted the entertainment company who sponsored this event( their name escapes me now) I was told it was the band members who decided on this policy not them!!! I’m still angry and I will never go see dead and co or Bob Weir again. I fought for my refund! I finally got it but was told not to tell anyone🤣🤣 funny thing is the band had to cancel both weekends because the all vaxxed up members., Well one of them got covid!! Karma!! People were already in Mexico when they announced the cancel. Wonder how long it took all of them to get their money back.
Anyway. I’ve stopped going to any concerts where masking or shots are required!! Done!!
I personally will hold all these artists responsible for being a part of this great slaughter. Genocide!! How dare all these people push their weight around and use their fame and status to coerce people into to getting these death shots!! These very artists who screamed to not trust the governments back in the day! Oh the irony. Makes me sick!
Interesting. I had to look that up. Explains why the band all went to the White House with Obama. Micky hart and others were at Pelosi swearing in as house speaker. What a disappointment!
The way so many great musicians swallowed the official bullshit is so disheartening ...
Also, drummer Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead / Dead & Company had heart problems beginning in the fall of 2021. I didn't find anything online about him pushing the "vaccine", but some of Dead & Co shows were proof of "vax" only.
But his tweet from January explains why drummers of all ages are dying - Sudden Drummer Special Heartbeat Syndrome.
Bill Kreutzmann
@BKreutzmann
ordering me to sit this one out.
As many of you know, I had some health issues this past fall. After a lifetime of playing special beats, it’s almost no wonder that my heart came up with its own idea of rhythm. All jokes aside, my doctor has ordered me to take it easy...
Seems pretty clear that simply being a great musician isn't the key to critical thinking and simple courage. It's a different animal that's guarding the heart chakra...
It's hard for me to identify with any of the musicians and singers you list. Despite my age (I'm 77, for reference), I simply never identified with any of them. Their tunes were inescapable, of course, but for me it was a lot like of a nearby highway, something to be put up with nowadays. I always figured they did what they did for the dough, end of story. Of course, I could have been wrong, but even when I agreed with some public position they seemed to espouse, their espousal always seemed principally acquisitive to me, self-serving in some way or another. (I think I'd have been happier, perhaps, had I been born in some other era, one a lot quieter.) So I am not surprised that the lot of them has sold out to Big Pharma and Goosestepping Government or to the campaign of Greta Horrifiedbyeverything and those who listen politely and appreciatively to her beastly hysterics. Most famous people today, I think, are neither as bright as PR makes them seem nor as substantive as they like to pretend.
Mark 🙏 for this necessary critique. On every point you’ve made, you are correct in your assessment. Like yourself, I have long been a huge fan of so many of the people you name-checked in this post. And like yourself, I’ve been sorely disappointed by the general response to the whole Covid thing from so many of the great music icons. Indeed, so much so, I have been thinking of penning my own analysis along the lines you’ve done here. (Your post may serve to inspire me to get my arse into gear. I’d even discussed doing so with others who share my own feelings. In a recent interview I did with Rick Munn on TNT Radio, we touched on this topic.)
In fact so dismayed have I been at these people and their complicity in supporting the Covid agenda, I don’t even listen to their music in quite the same way anymore. The respect thing has been sadly diminished. And it’s not just Covid either that has caused me to question the bona fides of some of my fave musos and performers.
Another topic/subject that is a frequent touchstone for myself as a writer is Israel. I’ve always admired Roger Waters and Brian Eno’s stand on the Israel thing (to name just two), yet I’m given to understand even they have bought into the Covid narrative. Overall, apart from Clapton and Van the Man and a few others (like the drummer from INXS), music biz dissidents have been thin on the ground.
On a slightly different note, I just watched two excellent documentary films—one on Frank Zappa and the other on Fabbo Johnny (aka John Lennon), both artists who were not shy when it came to airing political dissent. Whilst watching these dokos, one of the questions I kept asking myself was this: I wonder what both of these chaps would have to say about what’s happening now. And not just with Covid. Thanks again.
You *know* the govt paid these rockers to pimp the Covid shot things.
If 22-year-old Tik-Tokers were being offered thousands to pimp the shots (which several have said), wouldn’t it behoove our leaders to break off a few $M to Mick, Keith & the gang?
I know in my gut Krispie Kreme, Shake Shack, Six Flags and all those other businesses did not just take the hit in the wallet while giving out all those free donuts, fries, season passes, beer, joints & lap dances to those who’d show their Covid shot cards. Maybe it came in the form of a “consultancy fee” payment to the businesses that agreed to play the game. That’s how Pharna buys off many of our physicians anyway.
First we heard the govt was allocating $1B to market the Covid shot things. Then, out if the next $10B Congress allocated in the 2nd Covid-related bill, we were told another $2.5B would be used to keep marketing the shots. Exactly how was that money spent?
Having worked in news for decades, I asked old journalist friends if they wanted to look into this. One had already filed a FOIA request to find out how specifically that money was spent, but told me the DoJ had already told her station, because we were “in an emergency,” the govt didn’t have to disclose that information. $3.5 B of your money… & it’s none of your business what it was spent on or who ended up with it?
My guess is colleges & public school systems were “incentivized” with govt payments, if they too would play ball & require or strongly encourage their students to get the things. I had to block texts from our local school systems bc the “encouragement” text messages, emails & calls to get Vaxxed we’re incessant! The school system even claimed the shots were FDA “APPROVED” in one of the emails, while all the products were still definitely on the market via Emergency Use Authorization— not the same thing!
The globalists think we are fools, & based upon some of what I’m seeing, I’m thinking they’re correct, partially.
Some of us have learned the hard way the true nature of Pharma’s “science”/marketing. I sure did. Linked is my story which shows how my trying to figure out what had just destroyed my life caused me to finally see all the blatant scientific fraud, deception & marketing behind Pharma’s unsafe, barely tested toxic crap being marketed as “safe & effective,” which is neither a scientific nor legally defined phrase, which is why people trying to deceive us use it. It’s amorphous, vague. Blatant obfuscation.
Soon everyone will know dozens if not hundreds of people, disabled, broke, suffering and/or dead all because of this industry. The people at the top of these companies are masters of marketing. That much we know, and marketers love to hire famous people as their spokespeople.
Some of them—like Mick, and Paul, and Neil Young—don't need the money. Either they actually believed the con, like nearly everybody else, or they were otherwise induced to play their parts.
unless mick got a placebo, he doesn't have much time left. hard to believe that crosby is still with us, considering the liver transplant, let alone the jab.
what's funny is how so few of the dinosaur rockers are emulating van morrison's recent resurgence. i'll bet he's more popular than he's ever been. - at 77!
Great heartfelt post Mark. Im so curious about all this. I worked for a long time in a place where I got to meet many rockers right before they clicked, and most of them were nice, of average intelligence, some goofy, but all of them mega supremely musically talented. One household name (2 years before THE album) was so damn nice that I was worried he was gonna get mugged outside, but he was like any other stoner (I don't smoke weed but look like I do) who wanted a bong hit and said very dumb things, I talked to him for 30 minutes only cuz his voice, to me, rivaled Jim Morrison as my fave of all time. I'm not super intelligent but I think I can read a room with the best of them, and something told me early on to not take the vaccine cuz something felt off, the Princess Cruise numbers, the speed with which they had 3 vaccines, the hysteria, etc. But my wife, very smart, was cowed by the legacy media (whereas they are my south star, I grew up in Manhattan, and knew enough of them to know how sweaty they are) Im not defending the rockers you mention, most of them are so treacly when they start in, but I'm beginning to think it's not just mass formation hypnosis. Former very good friends are so damn scared, and they are not posing. My two teen daughters instantly said no vaccines, w/o a word from me (oh it was gonna come if they didn't get there first) and now of course they are seeing and hearing the stories, whereas my brainwashed friends continue to push boosters... and Im flummoxed. One of the friends I mention is a music star, and he is being genuine when he says he only believes legacy media, and not me. Again, maybe some of these rockers believe what they're saying. Btw, I played Miss You a billion times but that singer dude left me cold from the beginning. But Springsteen on the other hand...
The spirit of Rock and Roll died a while back, killed by conformity.
Doesn’t it crack everyone up how people who, in the 60s/70s, were protesting war and bucking the system in numerous ways are now saying we all need to shut up and do what we’re told, whether take drugs, support war or whatever? Politically I’m pretty much an agnostic now, but the reality of life in Wacky World these days still makes me gasp from time to time.
Mick Jagger: “Take your shot, you stupid antiVaxxer.” Wait. What?
No, it doesn’t crack me up. It’s the same KoolAid, differ flavor.
I’m convinced that all the rock n roll and protest was all top-down manipulation.
https://filepursuit.com/file/28620465-Dr-John-Coleman-Conspirators-Hierarchy-The-Story-of-the-Committee-of-300-pdf/
Author agrees rock n roll was planned. He gets there unveiling long, unsanitized history. I can’t verify so consume with salt.
Thank you!
He who pays the Piper calls the tune.
They are so weak. And pathetic. And disconnected. They have envy becuase they have no future and young people do. Idiots.
The Stones only source of funding has been Stadium tours for 40 or 50 years. Their albums were mostly flops which is how they got stuck in this grind.
So the 12 or 13 million they earn a year via their Dutch company is the only money coming in (because Klein basically stole their catalogue there's no royalties or very few coming in). So for the last 2 years as you can imagine they must have all been living off of previous capital. Or loans.
I agree totally!
i'll mention one of my favorite big mouths, Dave Mustaine of Megadeth. Over the years he has expounded on issues that made me say, "Mustaine! WTF!" but I've been pleased to note has lips have been a-flappin' re Cov BS: Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine slams COVID-19 restrictions during concert: 'This is called tyranny'
by Matthew Miller, Social Media Producer
| September 20, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rock-star-dave-mustaine-slams-covid-restrictions-live-concert-tyranny
Also note from article that Rapper Busta Rhymes said, “COVID can suck a d*** ... “
It is truly horrific how Dave Grohl and Mick Jagger collaborated in this heinous fiendish way. So well said about all these former icons Mark. I do believe you're right about Jimi Hendrix 💕. I heard in an Eric Clapton interview that he said even his daughters ostracized him for not getting more injections. Van Morrison is a stand-up guy all the way. One of the few left from the "old school. ". As are you. Let's hope the up-and-coming generation wakes up and has their own great awakening. 🙌
I have been a gigantic fan of Van Morrison for a half a century. But in the last two years, he has become a full-on hero for me. Talk about courage and integrity.
Grohl is all establishment. And it sounds like the death of his drummer is on him.
These guys have it BACKWARDS.
Paid. They must have all been paid. Right?
Or perhaps they all have early onset dementia. And if you're not buying that excuse, then it's probably back to the mass formation issue.😷💉🤕. One thing is for sure, they are not well. Wheather that's a spiritual, emotional or mental health issue, or combination thereof, is a question I cannot answer definitively. But each one has been afflicted with something to various degrees.
paid with Ad-chrome, childblood, hookers, Cov test kits, crossroad demon contracts...
It's a good thing we have other musicians trying to raise awareness. Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, Muse, The Flobots, and Tom MacDonald.
Van Morrison - Fighting back is the new normal: https://youtu.be/nojn1bRcLOQ
The Flobots - There's a war going on for your mind: https://youtu.be/4Ne0DmiuHeg
Tom MacDonald - Brainwashed: https://youtu.be/a4KbAx1SoU4
I think Roger Waters is against all this too?
And Nikki Minaj got into some trouble at some point and she ended up being right I think.
yea. I was cheering though I don’t know her music. She was responding to her MET Gala invite which required Covid shots. She said she had concerns after a cousin had serious adverse events after getting his shots and, even if she ever did decide to get it, it wouldn’t be so she could attend some MET Gala.
Poor Wendy Williams. Initially strongly against the shots. Said she wouldn’t get it. Maybe the thought of losing her show got the best of her. She did get vaccinated. Granted she had chronic health issues prior to this period, but her health tanked massively after taking “dah trrrrreatment,” and she could no longer work… for months. I don’t know if she’s recovered. Last I saw was a picture of her in a wheelchair. Sad, whether caused by these shots or not.
She also shut up very quickly. 😞
I loved U2, Ed Sheeran and Elton John. I went to Eltons concert in Dunedin the last one he did before canceling the test of his shows. I really feel these people have let us down terribly. I don't enjoy their music anymore, just like I don't enjoy Michael Jackson's music. There actions have put me off them completely.
Maybe dead to themselves...
I know. What can we do? I'm not into forcing people into anything, not even LIFE.
That’s a good thing. It was all fake anyway.
The only one that really hurt me was Patti Smith. She was sort of an idol of mine in the late 70s. The rest of them (BONO has always been a shill for the latest ruling class bait & switch), who cares. But Patti. sigh.
I saw Patti open for Neil Young at the Boston Garden. I'm wondering if they both have early onset dementia now.
Neil Young was always a jerk.
Yes, but he seemed to "err" on the side of being opposed to the establishment. He had critical thinking skills. Those seem to be gone now.
I hear that. I liked U2 waaaay back there, but Bono ruined it fairly early on. I saw them in Austin on their very first visit to the USA, and even then, Bono was all about himself... NO sense of humor visible. Well, there ya go. Sad. But Patti? wtf.
I know. And Joni too. Another great love bites the dust. Oh, and Laurie Anderson. IT's Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
I'm not kidding about this: I used to have like, maybe a couple hundred "good friends" from over the years... Nearly ALL of them now refuse to talk to me. So I'm not at all surprised that these musicians are also in that mindf*ck of the Fear... It's just one big bizarre time for everyone. I'm resigned to just trying to live, and hopefully I can get a few people on their feet sometime soon. The thing that works is MASSIVE peaceful demonstrations of civil disobedience. I want to see us out in the streets, in vast numbers, and dancing our protest, thumbing our noses at the Evil Ones.
Laurie?! Oy!
And Bono is talking about vaccines everywhere to stop the pandemic now???? Where has he been while all the vaxxed were getting covid? Definitely they work for evil forces. Cannot be so stupid?
I think they ARE that stupid.
I agree with shasta. It's evil. There is now, and always has been, only one war going on in the world. Its between the Light and the Dark. Every conflict a mere battle. All are connected.
Jimmy Page didn't buy Alistair Crowley's house for the view.
I’ve hated him since LiveAid.
Total narcissist.
The tragedy is they actually “believe” they are doing a good thing!
I don’t thing so. They know the vax is shit and they want to put two (two, Lol) in the arms of people that live in countries were covid is non existent.
I am not so sure for themselves - or do you think they think they are invincible?
I see. They are getting it too. Good point. They are very stupid then. But why make those videos? I mean, you get covid, recover and bye bye. You don’t make a video or Twitt “I am thankful for the shot”. That is blatant propaganda.
Might not be a "stupid" thing, might just be a ZOMBIE thing. I've seen this in MANY of my friends who used to be intelligent, educated, lovely people. Go fig.
Not a "stupid thing", an evil one. They have been led astray by Santa.
Maybe some of them. But I know not all. This is a reaction to being terrorized, this "Mass Formation Psychosis." How do I know this? Because as I said, I have a LOT of "former" friends who were never evil, I know these people really well, for years, decades, and that they are now EVIL seems a bit much.
Spooky, yes. Stunned bafflement and terror... But... I saw somewhere some rough estimates for people and mindsets... it may have been just the US, but something like 30% of people are bedeviled, shall we say... the MFP (Mass Formation Psychosis) ate their brains... That's maybe a third of everyone, maybe. Then there's those of us who are steadfastly aware, that's something like 40%, and then about 30% who are on the fence... I THINK I'm remembering those numbers correctly, but then it's only an estimation. So, if there's something to those numbers, it means there's a sizable MINORITY of Zombies... And if there's another THIRD of us that can be freed from the brainfrack, that's a BIG MAJORITY, 70%... And we don't need nearly that many people to get HUGE crowds into the street. We need a starter-upper, and people will join.
What will push everyone in the Fence-sitters group into being Aware? Hmmm, let's think... maybe no food? Maybe no money? Maybe the rest of us SHOUTING OUR HEADS OFF? IRL, in the streets, and not just on a website, where it's mostly us types on it, all shouting to EACH OTHER, as if we don't already know? I'm not saying it's not great to have Substack, but I've seen definite signs here of infiltration with the intention of causing division...
I just think it's high time for some real protest, LIKE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, Americans! When I go walking I practice the chants: SHOW ME WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!! (THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!) and SHOW ME HOW WE DO IT!! (THIS IS HOW WE DO IT!!)
Doesn't it make you wanna get up and get out there? I DO.
Brainwashed.
For themselves, maybe.
Foo Fighters used to be in my top 5 and Rage in my top 3. Now neither gets even a thought from me. I find it a bit sad, a bit melancholic, more than anything else. It's disappointing to experience the fissure that splits a person into an artist you love as well as a troglodyte you loathe.
The other, surreal oddness to it is that this entire stance by these artists is fucking bizarre. It runs counter to any concept of artistry, rebellion, and independence. I cannot for a second convince myself that all of them have ALWAYS been secret operatives.
No, they're just really, really stupid. They just needed to follow the rules for rock star success:
1. Never take a public stance on ANYTHING remotely political or controversial unless it is generically attacking the 'man', the 'system', or 'mean people'.
2. If you do make the idiotic moe of violating #1, please try to take a stand against people who are mean to animals or kids. Do NOT, ever, take the position of defending and taking talking points from ginormous multinational corporations with reputations for graft and moral bankruptcy.
3. Don't talk about shit you don't understand. If you are a rock star, the statistical probability that you are also good at math, science, or reading above a third-grade level is about the same as the chance that the Double Mint Twins are coming to my place tonight.
4. Play music and shut the fuck up. No one cares what you THINK. About anything.
Fortunately, I'd already written off many of these artists as megapricks (Crosby, Bono, Springsteen), but others have massively disappointed me (Grohl, Offspring). On the bright side, two huge faves of mine (Clapton and Van Morrison) now have my eternal support, and a sleeper (Minaj) is the shit as far as I'm concerned.
I feel your disappointment. One of my all time fav bands is Grateful Dead. The remaining members too have fallen for this government control!! Can you believe it! I think of the song throwing stones. Boy. I went to see over 100 shows. Think of my anger when I purchased tickets to playin in the sand in Mexico. It was over $7000 and before I purchased I inquired as to whether or not there would be any kind of vaccine mandate because I knew I was not getting one. I was told that it was not a requirement to purchase. Of course after I pay the whole freakin thing off (took 6 months) I get an email stating that I must have a vaccination In Order to attend and no refunds will be given!!! I won’t bore you with the fight that ensued but I will tell you that when I contacted the entertainment company who sponsored this event( their name escapes me now) I was told it was the band members who decided on this policy not them!!! I’m still angry and I will never go see dead and co or Bob Weir again. I fought for my refund! I finally got it but was told not to tell anyone🤣🤣 funny thing is the band had to cancel both weekends because the all vaxxed up members., Well one of them got covid!! Karma!! People were already in Mexico when they announced the cancel. Wonder how long it took all of them to get their money back.
Anyway. I’ve stopped going to any concerts where masking or shots are required!! Done!!
I personally will hold all these artists responsible for being a part of this great slaughter. Genocide!! How dare all these people push their weight around and use their fame and status to coerce people into to getting these death shots!! These very artists who screamed to not trust the governments back in the day! Oh the irony. Makes me sick!
Weir goes to Bohemian Grove! I think he and Lesh were assets all along. (Not Jerry, though)
Interesting. I had to look that up. Explains why the band all went to the White House with Obama. Micky hart and others were at Pelosi swearing in as house speaker. What a disappointment!
Of course you're not mentioning that because you saw him there. Just kidding.
Point me towards info re BW and the Grove...
Or the crooked billionaires. Since when did the Left (almost) become chill with Mr. Burns taking over the world?
The way so many great musicians swallowed the official bullshit is so disheartening ...
Also, drummer Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead / Dead & Company had heart problems beginning in the fall of 2021. I didn't find anything online about him pushing the "vaccine", but some of Dead & Co shows were proof of "vax" only.
But his tweet from January explains why drummers of all ages are dying - Sudden Drummer Special Heartbeat Syndrome.
Bill Kreutzmann
@BKreutzmann
ordering me to sit this one out.
As many of you know, I had some health issues this past fall. After a lifetime of playing special beats, it’s almost no wonder that my heart came up with its own idea of rhythm. All jokes aside, my doctor has ordered me to take it easy...
(2/4)
2:28 PM · Jan 3, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/BKreutzmann/status/1478085873963094022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Seems pretty clear that simply being a great musician isn't the key to critical thinking and simple courage. It's a different animal that's guarding the heart chakra...
I've been experiencing similar... disappointment shall we say? Heart-ache, or break closer to it.
The Covidians out pushing the jab - artists of all kinds included - have ruined the pleasure of some music and movies for me. The spell is powerful.
Lame excuses coming... I don't want to hear them.
It's hard for me to identify with any of the musicians and singers you list. Despite my age (I'm 77, for reference), I simply never identified with any of them. Their tunes were inescapable, of course, but for me it was a lot like of a nearby highway, something to be put up with nowadays. I always figured they did what they did for the dough, end of story. Of course, I could have been wrong, but even when I agreed with some public position they seemed to espouse, their espousal always seemed principally acquisitive to me, self-serving in some way or another. (I think I'd have been happier, perhaps, had I been born in some other era, one a lot quieter.) So I am not surprised that the lot of them has sold out to Big Pharma and Goosestepping Government or to the campaign of Greta Horrifiedbyeverything and those who listen politely and appreciatively to her beastly hysterics. Most famous people today, I think, are neither as bright as PR makes them seem nor as substantive as they like to pretend.
Mark 🙏 for this necessary critique. On every point you’ve made, you are correct in your assessment. Like yourself, I have long been a huge fan of so many of the people you name-checked in this post. And like yourself, I’ve been sorely disappointed by the general response to the whole Covid thing from so many of the great music icons. Indeed, so much so, I have been thinking of penning my own analysis along the lines you’ve done here. (Your post may serve to inspire me to get my arse into gear. I’d even discussed doing so with others who share my own feelings. In a recent interview I did with Rick Munn on TNT Radio, we touched on this topic.)
In fact so dismayed have I been at these people and their complicity in supporting the Covid agenda, I don’t even listen to their music in quite the same way anymore. The respect thing has been sadly diminished. And it’s not just Covid either that has caused me to question the bona fides of some of my fave musos and performers.
Another topic/subject that is a frequent touchstone for myself as a writer is Israel. I’ve always admired Roger Waters and Brian Eno’s stand on the Israel thing (to name just two), yet I’m given to understand even they have bought into the Covid narrative. Overall, apart from Clapton and Van the Man and a few others (like the drummer from INXS), music biz dissidents have been thin on the ground.
On a slightly different note, I just watched two excellent documentary films—one on Frank Zappa and the other on Fabbo Johnny (aka John Lennon), both artists who were not shy when it came to airing political dissent. Whilst watching these dokos, one of the questions I kept asking myself was this: I wonder what both of these chaps would have to say about what’s happening now. And not just with Covid. Thanks again.
I saw Roger Waters live a week ago. Solid show. I basically just focused on the music.
You *know* the govt paid these rockers to pimp the Covid shot things.
If 22-year-old Tik-Tokers were being offered thousands to pimp the shots (which several have said), wouldn’t it behoove our leaders to break off a few $M to Mick, Keith & the gang?
I know in my gut Krispie Kreme, Shake Shack, Six Flags and all those other businesses did not just take the hit in the wallet while giving out all those free donuts, fries, season passes, beer, joints & lap dances to those who’d show their Covid shot cards. Maybe it came in the form of a “consultancy fee” payment to the businesses that agreed to play the game. That’s how Pharna buys off many of our physicians anyway.
First we heard the govt was allocating $1B to market the Covid shot things. Then, out if the next $10B Congress allocated in the 2nd Covid-related bill, we were told another $2.5B would be used to keep marketing the shots. Exactly how was that money spent?
Having worked in news for decades, I asked old journalist friends if they wanted to look into this. One had already filed a FOIA request to find out how specifically that money was spent, but told me the DoJ had already told her station, because we were “in an emergency,” the govt didn’t have to disclose that information. $3.5 B of your money… & it’s none of your business what it was spent on or who ended up with it?
My guess is colleges & public school systems were “incentivized” with govt payments, if they too would play ball & require or strongly encourage their students to get the things. I had to block texts from our local school systems bc the “encouragement” text messages, emails & calls to get Vaxxed we’re incessant! The school system even claimed the shots were FDA “APPROVED” in one of the emails, while all the products were still definitely on the market via Emergency Use Authorization— not the same thing!
The globalists think we are fools, & based upon some of what I’m seeing, I’m thinking they’re correct, partially.
Some of us have learned the hard way the true nature of Pharma’s “science”/marketing. I sure did. Linked is my story which shows how my trying to figure out what had just destroyed my life caused me to finally see all the blatant scientific fraud, deception & marketing behind Pharma’s unsafe, barely tested toxic crap being marketed as “safe & effective,” which is neither a scientific nor legally defined phrase, which is why people trying to deceive us use it. It’s amorphous, vague. Blatant obfuscation.
Soon everyone will know dozens if not hundreds of people, disabled, broke, suffering and/or dead all because of this industry. The people at the top of these companies are masters of marketing. That much we know, and marketers love to hire famous people as their spokespeople.
https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/medical-device-dangers/fda-does-not-test-most-devices-implanted-in-humans-and-many-are-paying-for-it/269-c41ad14d-031f-4166-a18b-4361e8e22cfd
Some of them—like Mick, and Paul, and Neil Young—don't need the money. Either they actually believed the con, like nearly everybody else, or they were otherwise induced to play their parts.
unless mick got a placebo, he doesn't have much time left. hard to believe that crosby is still with us, considering the liver transplant, let alone the jab.
what's funny is how so few of the dinosaur rockers are emulating van morrison's recent resurgence. i'll bet he's more popular than he's ever been. - at 77!
What you're at 77 headquarters or Crosby is 77yo?
I'm entertaining the idea that Substack is a British intelligence operation so any information is helpful! Cheers!
Great heartfelt post Mark. Im so curious about all this. I worked for a long time in a place where I got to meet many rockers right before they clicked, and most of them were nice, of average intelligence, some goofy, but all of them mega supremely musically talented. One household name (2 years before THE album) was so damn nice that I was worried he was gonna get mugged outside, but he was like any other stoner (I don't smoke weed but look like I do) who wanted a bong hit and said very dumb things, I talked to him for 30 minutes only cuz his voice, to me, rivaled Jim Morrison as my fave of all time. I'm not super intelligent but I think I can read a room with the best of them, and something told me early on to not take the vaccine cuz something felt off, the Princess Cruise numbers, the speed with which they had 3 vaccines, the hysteria, etc. But my wife, very smart, was cowed by the legacy media (whereas they are my south star, I grew up in Manhattan, and knew enough of them to know how sweaty they are) Im not defending the rockers you mention, most of them are so treacly when they start in, but I'm beginning to think it's not just mass formation hypnosis. Former very good friends are so damn scared, and they are not posing. My two teen daughters instantly said no vaccines, w/o a word from me (oh it was gonna come if they didn't get there first) and now of course they are seeing and hearing the stories, whereas my brainwashed friends continue to push boosters... and Im flummoxed. One of the friends I mention is a music star, and he is being genuine when he says he only believes legacy media, and not me. Again, maybe some of these rockers believe what they're saying. Btw, I played Miss You a billion times but that singer dude left me cold from the beginning. But Springsteen on the other hand...